Ranged Attack & Crit Hits?

[Isobel]

I'm very close to finishing a full Skadi set for my COR & RNG. (LOL Anyways...)
With the Crit Hit effect given from the set, I'm wondering what I can do along those lines.
Been told that Jupiter's Staff doesn't affect Ranged Attack, and that seems to be the case. (dammit!)
What about Heart Snatcher and Dissector? (the KS60 weapons)
Any other Crit Hit + equip work or not work with Ranged Attack?
And, how much does the Skadi set increase the rate of Crit Hits? 5%?

I play XI on PS2 and 360, so I can't do much testing with Windower.
Any ideas, info, help, etc y'all can give would be really appreciated. Thanks!

[Saraphym]

I believe the crit+ on weapons only apply to that specific weapon. iirc thats why nins used to mainwield senj over fudo, so yea, probably doesn't help crit on ranged atk, the weapons at least.

[zaitsev]

observed a definite increase in crit using claymore grip on my RNG. However, not sure how that applies with a heart snatcher or dissector. Sorry no numbers/SS to post though.

[mat]

observed a definite increase in crit using claymore grip on my RNG. However, not sure how that applies with a heart snatcher or dissector. Sorry no numbers/SS to post though.

you cant be observing a DEFINITE crit increase unless you were doing results

3% isn't something you can particularly notice by the eye, especailly considering it isn't always 3/100, results may vary.

[Saraphym]

It's likely grips are possible since the definition seems to be just in general. Probably similar to crit merits, don't quote me on it though, i haven't done any testing and am purely guessing.

[Seigfried Of Pandy]

this would be something really good to test whether grips and also items effect your total crit hit rate if it hasent been tested or proven already because i personally dont know

[VZX]

Even if it does, it still sucks :/

[zaitsev]

observed a definite increase in crit using claymore grip on my RNG. However, not sure how that applies with a heart snatcher or dissector. Sorry no numbers/SS to post though.

you cant be observing a DEFINITE crit increase unless you were doing results

3% isn't something you can particularly notice by the eye, especailly considering it isn't always 3/100, results may vary.

#clarification

no, I wasnt doing this by eye, this was from an LS member parsing, and I don't have SS/numbers of it. (ergo, note my apology? kthx)

/clarification

Even if it does, it still sucks :/

#derail

This thread is now about making RNG Snapshot Merits with 20billion increasesQ_Q;

Hello SE? Are ya there? You left RNG behind!

/derail

[Seraph]

observed a definite increase in crit using claymore grip on my RNG. However, not sure how that applies with a heart snatcher or dissector. Sorry no numbers/SS to post though.

you cant be observing a DEFINITE crit increase unless you were doing results

3% isn't something you can particularly notice by the eye, especailly considering it isn't always 3/100, results may vary.

#clarification

no, I wasnt doing this by eye, this was from an LS member parsing, and I don't have SS/numbers of it. (ergo, note my apology? kthx)

/clarification

Even if it does, it still sucks :/

#derail

This thread is now about making RNG Snapshot Merits with 20billion increasesQ_Q;

Hello SE? Are ya there? You left RNG behind!

/derail

Didn't you guys get your very own special ToAU mission ring, complete with Snapshot enhancement?

[terraflarex]

At least crit merits affect ranged attacks now...

[Sasarai]

At least crit merits affect ranged attacks now...

Which would be awesome if crits weren't so disappointing with Ranged Attacks

[lysol]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

[Shadida]

It's not garbage... just sucks that the Snapshot enhancement isn't 100% of the time.

Anyway, a friend and I are both painfully close to 5/5 Skadi set (painful because the biggest thing keeping us away is these damn Khroma Ores), so hopefully we can test it and see how significant this crit hit rate can be. I might have to clean that Heart Snatcher for THF if it's actually worthwhile.

[terraflarex]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

Definitely not garbage...

[zaitsev]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

ranged attack +6 and ranged accuracy +6 in one ring slot == garbage? just wondering what your alternate for this would be.

[superfob]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

ranged attack +6 and ranged accuracy +6 in one ring slot == garbage? just wondering what your alternate for this would be.

Obviously this

[terraflarex]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

ranged attack +6 and ranged accuracy +6 in one ring slot == garbage? just wondering what your alternate for this would be.

Obviously this

I hate you so much right now...
Fuckin AV...

[zaitsev]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

ranged attack +6 and ranged accuracy +6 in one ring slot == garbage? just wondering what your alternate for this would be.

Obviously this

I hate you so much right now...
Fuckin AV...

q_q

[Demosthenes11]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

ranged attack +6 and ranged accuracy +6 in one ring slot == garbage? just wondering what your alternate for this would be.

Obviously this

I hate you so much right now...
Fuckin AV...

my ls has one ^_^

I might have to clean that Heart Snatcher for THF if it's actually worthwhile.

gtfo

[Mellema]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

ranged attack +6 and ranged accuracy +6 in one ring slot == garbage? just wondering what your alternate for this would be.

Most melees taking Ulthalam's ring give up a sniper's/woodsman, so they lose 1 acc to gain 4 att. Also, the 4 str and dex for assaults is very nice.

Many rangers who might choose Jalzahn's ring would give up a behemoth ring +1, so they lose 6 r. acc to gain 6 r. att. In assaults they would gain 6 agi, but honestly most Rngs have more than enough agi.

So, with Ulthalams you sacrifice a little accuracy for a bigger increase of attack; not a huge difference, but a net gain over all.

With Jalzahns you sacrafice a little more r. acc for an equal increase in r. att; to me that's just breaking even.

And before someone brings up snipers +1 or Toredors rings, at least on carbuncle both are still very expensive and not that common, whereas behemoth +1 is pretty cheap and I would expect most dedicated Rngs to have at least 1.