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    DOTA 2: Thanks volvo

    I remember reading that valve got the original DOTA guys to work with them. I guess it was true.

    http://www.destructoid.com/defense-o...--180862.phtml

    Defense of the Ancients is an incredibly popular custom scenario for Warcraft III. It's so big that entire games have been created based on it. Jon St. John is a voice actor most notably recognized as the titular Duke Nukem. The latter is now claiming that he just returned from doing voice work for the former. Here's the tweet, see what stands out to you.

    Had a great time in Seattle last week recording for DotA. The guys at ValveSoftware are awesome! Going to PAX? Might see you there - Sept3-5

    Valve? Keep calm, this actually isn't odd at all. Valve announced that they had hired DoTA developer Icefrog in order to make a game that would make DoTA players very happy. I'm thinking that a DoTA game would make DoTA players very happy. There have, of course already been a few DoTA style games released in the form of League of Legends and Heroes of Newerth, but this could definitely be the ultimate DoTA game considering the support that Valve puts behind all of its games.

    So, who wants it?
    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/06/du...e-of-the-anci/

    We heard a while ago that Defense of the Ancients creator Icefrog had been hired by Valve to work on something that would make DotA fans excited, and now voiceover artist Jon St. John – better known as the voice of Duke Nukem – has tweeted that he visited Valve in Seattle to do some "recording for DotA." Interesting. There have been a few DotA-style games released already, including the popular League of Legends and Heroes of Newerth, but if Valve's collaboration with Icefrog is actually called Defense of the Ancients, it could be even closer to the classic game than any of the full-scale competitors.

    Of course, the original DotA was a WarCraft 3 mod based on an original StarCraft map, but with Valve on board, this would presumably be a standalone title with plenty of Icefrog insight. We've contacted Valve to see what's up and just how close that announcement might be, and we'll let you know if and when we hear back.
    I'm terrible at these types of games but I never ragequit over a horrible loss happening.


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    >/vg/'s Dota 2 Readme

    If you have any questions such as "What hero I should play if I'm new?" or "How do I start playing?" - the answers are in here, just read and watch, don't go asking them in generals. Even if you ask, the answers you'll get will either be vague or outright trolling, they might also completely ignore you. So, do yourself a favor and just look it up in here.

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    - Basics
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    http://playdota.com/guides/simple-wa...rove-your-game - Simple ways to improve your game
    http://playdota.com/mechanics - Mechanics
    http://dota2wiki.com/wiki/Glossary - Glossary of terms
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=2i0439JaMYA - Roles
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=R9-qHJGIUvU - Item summary
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=8k6XM4MlYts - How to spend your starting gold
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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=HFwJqcga7V0 - Creep stacking and pulling
    http://team-dignitas.net/articles/bl...de-to-Drafting - A beginners guide to drafting
    http://team-dignitas.net/articles/bl...-newer-players - Hard carry for newer players

    - Learning with Lumi
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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pp4lv45N3Bg - Enigma
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=4PD5XNpJU4E - Identifying Item Choices
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=v2Wr0eMilYI - Invoker FPVOD

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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=siNh3PI4p3A - Basic vision and warding guide
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=NVzx2nwGvRo - Continuation of warding guide
    http://www.team-dignitas.net/article...ng-The-Basics/ - Another guide about wards

    - Hero overview
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    Learning for intermediate

    - Tips
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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=pW7Z2AnYzn8 - Dota 2 did you know? #1
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    - Guides
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    http://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL21F7E607CFC5CA82 - More video guides
    http://playdota.com/guides/vals-guide-to-every-hero - Tl;dr guides for every hero, somewhat outdated
    http://gosugamers.net/dota/members/Wilco - More tl;dr hero guides
    http://playdota.com/guides/drafting-...r-intermediate - Drafting in cm for intermediate
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=QXne3KrQ1Ng - Dendi talks solo mid

    - Learning from streams
    http://team-dignitas.net/articles/bl...n-from-Streams - Part 1
    http://team-dignitas.net/articles/bl...Streams-Part-2 - Part 2


    Useful resources

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    http://cyborgmatt.com - Content analysis for the most recent updates
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    http://welcometodota2.blogspot.com- Some how-to and other useful stuff


    Streams

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    http://reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/n...version_script - A script that replaces DotA icons with their Dota 2 counterparts on playdota.com, requires greasemonkey and works with Firefox and Chrome
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    If TF2 is any indicator (hat-based war simulator) I would not look forward to anything they'd be doing with regards to DoTA. I imagine it'd be like LoL but worse, HoN is fine for a DoTA replacement. Although I'm sure a Valve-backed DoTA remake would bring in a much larger audience. If they don't mess up the balance and actually import DoTA heroes and only a few of their own, I can only see good, otherwise, if they add hats for no fucking reason it's gg, LoL v2.

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    Yeah, another identical clone is just what we need. I'd like to see them actually try something new with it, but chances are slim I guess. Despite how silly the hats are, Valve puts far, far more effort in to keeping TF2 updated with fixes and new content than pretty much any other dev. And they don't charge a damn thing for it. If they put anywhere near the same level of support in to this I'm sure everyone would be happy.

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    Well TF2 is more a thing to keep ppl starting steam over n over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk View Post
    bitching about free stuff i'm not interested in
    i love hats, even tough i only have like 3. i'd love to play a non$$skin dota game.

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    If it's free or has a free demo I'll give it a shot, but I never played DotA or even Warcraft 3.

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    Read icefrog's posts and I'm no longer worried, definitely going to be very similar to DoTA if not a clone. To the people saying they want something new, you don't really make something new with this genre, the 'new' comes in with the heroes not the gameplay. The reason it's so successful is because the community (11+ million players) likes the gameplay it provides. For example, Halo doesn't reinvent the FPS with every sequel, it adds or removes guns and adjusts the player slightly and calls it a day. The same goes for DoTA game types, you adjust the heroes and the items but the gameplay should be left largely unchanged because that's the genre.

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    Halo invented DoTA.

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    halo did eventually have an rts, so by magus' logic valve is making a dota fps.

    just changing up the heroes a bit.. BUT HEY KEEPING THE GAMEPLAY THE SAME

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    lol you've got some pretty fail logic there.

    Fuck yeah dota fps though, I'd play that shit all day.

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    i liked dota AS back when all of the heroes came from previous dota games (hence the name), df/vanilla had especially good heroes. i really want to see more DF heroes redone for allstars but of course i haven't played since like 5.6 or something (whatever the quick patch was right after they gave clinx perma-invis for no reason)

    i hope it goes well, it might actually be pretty sweet if they do it right.

    edit: also for anyone who played dota back in the day (way before allstars was even released) i hope they add more things like they had in tides of blood and eve of the apocalypse, it required a little more cooperation on every players part than dota does which is what i think made them way more fun than dota (although less popular)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk View Post
    lol you've got some pretty fail logic there.

    Fuck yeah dota fps though, I'd play that shit all day.
    LOCO and Savage 2 are pretty close. Former is third person, latter is a little less like DotA but has first person view points if you use a ranged weapon.

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    only problem i have with loco is that it's RETARDED unbalanced.

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    If you played it in CB they changed quite a lot going in to OB, but there's still a few heroes with issues.

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    I loved Savage 2, I have a premium account for them. Player base is sorta low now days but it used to be big.

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    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/11/va...rk/1#c29827397

    A few days after voice actor Jon St. John (best known as Duke Nukem) tweeted about doing work on Valve's unannounced Defense of the Ancients, Superannuation has noted a trademark filed by the publisher with the US Patent and Trademark Office for "DOTA."

    We're following up with Valve again for an official response, but you know how this one goes. It's okay, Valve -- you can talk to us. There's no shame in working on DotA. We're okay with it, nobody is judging you -- we'll still give you bro hugs and use Steam even after you come out with it.

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    S2 is so fucked when this goes public...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandole View Post
    S2 is so fucked when this goes public...
    Yeah, I mean it's called DOTA, it's led by the guy who leads the original DOTA, it's going to be DOTA, led by a very strong game developer who owns like the largest online PC gaming platform (Steam). DoTA clones don't stand a chance once this is released

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandole View Post
    S2 is so fucked when this goes public...
    Aren't they already? Does anyone actually still play HoN?

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