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  1. #1
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    Question to Gjallarhorn owners with wind skill merited.

    ive been testing minuet IV and was wondering if any people with

    1. Gjallarhorn owners
    2. wind skill merited
    3. 5 minuet merits upgrades

    has gotten past +66 attack for minuet IV?

    so far i know

    0-3 or 4 wind skill gives no change
    5 - 11 wind skill gives +1 attack to minuet IV
    12 - unknown wind skill gives +2 attack to minuet IV (the highest i tested was 36 wind skill and still is +2)

    pls dont derail!

    oh my data is here
    http://66.215.70.71/files/guides/brd/minuet_study.htm

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    Singing Skill calculates in there somewhere as well.

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    singing can do what wind does for minuet, but they do not stack

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    Quote Originally Posted by masag0
    singing can do what wind does for minuet, but they do not stack
    Not sure what you mean here. Replace "Wind skill" with "Singing & Wind skill combined" in your "so far I know" list and it's right.

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    Going to dinner with my parents, I'll test when I get home (or you can ask Taj real nice and he might do it for me).

    For completeness sake I have:

    Gjallarhorn
    4 Wind merits
    AF2 hands
    Af1+1 legs
    Wind Torque
    Musical Earring
    AF2 hat (singing skill)
    5 merits in Minuet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obev
    Quote Originally Posted by masag0
    singing can do what wind does for minuet, but they do not stack
    Not sure what you mean here. Replace "Wind skill" with "Singing & Wind skill combined" in your "so far I know" list and it's right.
    it means like 40 singing and 40 wind do the same thing for minuet

    but 20 singing + 20 wind dont equal 40 wind or 40 singing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linsivi
    Going to dinner with my parents, I'll test when I get home (or you can ask Taj real nice and he might do it for me).

    For completeness sake I have:

    Gjallarhorn
    4 Wind merits
    AF2 hands
    Af1+1 legs
    Wind Torque
    Musical Earring
    AF2 hat (singing skill)
    5 merits in Minuet
    cool thx alot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linsivi
    Gjallarhorn
    4 Wind merits
    AF2 hands
    Af1+1 legs
    Wind Torque
    Musical Earring
    AF2 hat (singing skill)
    5 merits in Minuet
    +66 Attack

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    how much wind skill from equip you use?

    also how many wind skill merits?

    assuming you have 5 minuet merits

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    Quote Originally Posted by masag0
    how much wind skill from equip you use?

    also how many wind skill merits?

    assuming you have 5 minuet merits
    Quote Originally Posted by Linsivi
    Gjallarhorn
    4 Wind merits
    AF2 hands
    Af1+1 legs
    Wind Torque
    Musical Earring
    AF2 hat (singing skill)
    5 merits in Minuet
    <_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taj
    Quote Originally Posted by masag0
    how much wind skill from equip you use?

    also how many wind skill merits?

    assuming you have 5 minuet merits
    Quote Originally Posted by Linsivi
    Gjallarhorn
    4 Wind merits
    AF2 hands
    Af1+1 legs
    Wind Torque
    Musical Earring
    AF2 hat (singing skill)
    5 merits in Minuet
    <_<
    Gjallarhorn + 10 wind
    4 Wind merits + 4 wind
    AF2 hands +3
    Af1+1 legs +8
    Wind Torque +7
    Musical Earring +5
    AF2 hat (singing skill) +0
    5 merits in Minuet

    you got 37 wind skill

    its possible for you to get 45 windskill if you get wind earring, minstrel coat, and bard cuff +1

    i'll update in my data that 37 wind skill yields +2 minuet attack

    oh btw for those interested here's my test for minne
    http://66.215.70.71/files/guides/brd/minne_study.htm
    which basically concludes after getting 3 wind skill or 3 singing skill, anymore equip doesn't do jack didly squat

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    I did some testing some time back; 5 singing and 8 wind made +62 attack for me, and I don't have Gjallarhorn nor did I have Minuet merits at the time of testing.

    +12 wind also resulted in +62.

    /shrug

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    4 wind merits is 8 skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masag0
    Quote Originally Posted by Taj
    Quote Originally Posted by masag0
    how much wind skill from equip you use?

    also how many wind skill merits?

    assuming you have 5 minuet merits
    Quote Originally Posted by Linsivi
    Gjallarhorn
    4 Wind merits
    AF2 hands
    Af1+1 legs
    Wind Torque
    Musical Earring
    AF2 hat (singing skill)
    5 merits in Minuet
    <_<
    Gjallarhorn + 10 wind
    4 Wind merits + 4 wind
    AF2 hands +3
    Af1+1 legs +8
    Wind Torque +7
    Musical Earring +5
    AF2 hat (singing skill) +0
    5 merits in Minuet

    you got 37 wind skill

    its possible for you to get 45 windskill if you get wind earring, minstrel coat, and bard cuff +1

    i'll update in my data that 37 wind skill yields +2 minuet attack

    oh btw for those interested here's my test for minne
    http://66.215.70.71/files/guides/brd/minne_study.htm
    which basically concludes after getting 3 wind skill or 3 singing skill, anymore equip doesn't do jack didly squat
    Gjallarhorn + 10 wind
    4 Wind merits + 8 wind
    AF2 hands +3
    Af1+1 legs +8
    Wind Torque +7
    Musical Earring +5
    AF2 hat (singing skill) +0
    5 merits in Minuet

    you got 41 wind skill

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    Quote Originally Posted by masag0
    it means like 40 singing and 40 wind do the same thing for minuet

    but 20 singing + 20 wind dont equal 40 wind or 40 singing
    This is incorrect. Buff strength is based on the sum of singing and instrument skill, 20 singing and 20 wind will have exactly the same effect as 40 wind.

    Wind 260+Singing 244 (+54 skill total), 5 Minuet merits: +66 attack

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    ah your right, thanks for the correction,

    wind and singing can be stacked and 1 wind skill = 1 singing skill,

    my bad sorry for the confusion.

    i tested with
    chanter's staff +4
    gjallarhorn +20
    bard's roundlet +5
    wind torque +7
    musical earring +5
    wind earring +3
    choral cuff +1 +10
    astute cape +5
    choral cannions +1 +8

    total 67 wind/singing skill increase and still +66 minuet IV attack.

    My conclusion is SE must have put a cap on it. Doesn't make sense to jump from 0-4, 5-11, 12-67++

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    Quote Originally Posted by masag0
    My conclusion is SE must have put a cap on it. Doesn't make sense to jump from 0-4, 5-11, 12-67++
    Welcome to two years ago.

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    How much attk do you get per minuet merit?

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    1.

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    There are people with Gjalla that dont have full wind merits?



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