What's Better?

[Villian]

Ridill, oa2-4 axe, or DA axe for off hand war/nin? This is with cap haste, and 30% DA with merits (GA when /sam or /mnk).

[Buffy]

thf @ 90.... assuming you don't need utsusemi, better sub? /nin or /war? Not sure if increased dual weild trait is better then double attack, warcry, etc

[Neisan]

Dual Wield

EDIT: /War can be better depending on haste/marches/blitz roll/haste samba/Dual wield reduction gear however.

[Toshiko]

Okote + Usukane boots or Aurore Gloves + Monk AF3 +1 feet? the 2% haste caps me. (af3+1 head, af3+2 legs, black belt)

[AzazaelFenrir]

Okote + Usukane boots or Aurore Gloves + Monk AF3 +1 feet? the 2% haste caps me. (af3+1 head, af3+2 legs, black belt)

Thought someone had said earlier to use Okote and AF3+1 feet.

[Motenten]

Okote + Usukane boots or Aurore Gloves + Monk AF3 +1 feet? the 2% haste caps me. (af3+1 head, af3+2 legs, black belt)

Aurore + AF3+1 feet is slightly better. Both are significantly better than OKote + AF3+1 feet.

Edit: Significantly better with Haste + double Marches. Only somewhat better with only Haste.

[nibu]

I frequently play THF and DNC, and I have just obtained two Kila +2 (evasion). While it seems great for soloing and evasion tanking, I'm curious what would be the best off-hand daggers for each job as part of a DD build.

In terms of dropped Ra/Ex daggers, DNC has access to Auric, while THF has access to both Auric and Rapidus.

With magian trials, I could do one of the three Parazonium +2 daggers:

38DMG, occasionally attack twice
22DMG, occasionally attack 2-4 times
45DMG, double attack 10%

There are also the Fusetto +2 trials:

40DMG, WS DMG +10%
38DMG, TP Bonus +100
40DMG, Store TP +15

I'm considering doing the Parazonium w/ OA 2-4 times, as I'd imagine building TP using it would be a breeze. However, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't overlooking some other equally good/better choices before starting the quest. For all I know, I might be sacrificing too much DMG on the off-hand dagger to make the TP gain worthwhile.

Thanks in advance~

[Nightfyre]

You're sacrificing too much to make the TP gain worthwhile on OA2-4. I'd do DA+10% mainhand for DNC (I know fuck all about THF setups).

Ridill, oa2-4 axe, or DA axe for off hand war/nin? This is with cap haste, and 30% DA with merits (GA when /sam or /mnk).

Probably DA axe. Definitely not OA2-4, shit doesn't stack with DA traits/gear so it's even worse for WAR than most jobs.

[Cantih]

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DA is probably smart for DNC, what with Saber Dance. For THF, maybe, if you use /war a lot.

The +100TP Fusetto isn't worthwhile. Dagger weaponskills don't benefit anywhere near as much from extra TP as other weapons do.
With STP, you're gonna get more TP from increasing your swings per round.
10% damage might be good on THF, but only if you can consistently do 2k+ with each WS.

[Imoq]

For BST melee TP body:

Askar Korazin? (STR+5, Att+12, Eva+12, DA+2%, STP+5)
Perle Hauberk? (STR+8, DEX+4, Acc+8, Att+8, Crit hit +2%)
Ferine Gausape +1? (Acc+15, Att+15, Eva+15, Axe skill+5, "Augment killer effects").

Usually use RR then often + VV and since I almost always am /whm, use a refresh atma (MM mostly or Ambition if I need to kite, no skadi feet). Of course, all atmas are situational.

Trying to find a use for the Empyrean body +1 I just got, but not sure if I should be meleeing on it.

(Edit: What about Rampage body? Hauby +1? Osode? Perle? Gausape +1?)

[Aihree]

Accuracy isn't a problem in Abyssea, so consider getting velox harness for haste +2% from attohwa ironclad for TPing.

[Triplesea]

which sea gorgets for victory smite?

[Nightfyre]

Thunder/Breeze

[Pandorablue]

10% damage might be good on THF, but only if you can consistently do 2k+ with each WS.

Would you say the 10% damage is worth it if I pull consistent 2~3k Evis on DNC with the +1 Fusetto?

[Nightfyre]

I'd say it has less to do with actual WS damage and more to do with how alternative options affect TP/WS phases and your TP/WS split.

[TacoTaru]

Will Perle Hauberk still beat Adaberk in Abyssea without RR or VV?

[Neisan]

Adaman Hauberk is better if your skill is horribly underleveled while trying to proc Red/blue weakness and you have no cruor buffs.

[Koyangi]

Why exactly do I see so much hate on either: Perle Body, or full perle?
Not everyone has or had ebody at the time of Visions of Abyssea launch. So in fact, Perle being released ungimped many who didnt do sea/sky/ and/or kings, or had bad luck in such shells if they were in a shell who did those events, perhaps.

[lolwut]

Why exactly do I see so much hate on either: Perle Body, or full perle?
Not everyone has or had ebody at the time of Visions of Abyssea launch. So in fact, Perle being released ungimped many who didnt do sea/sky/ and/or kings, or had bad luck in such shells if they were in a shell who did those events, perhaps.

Because in the many months since Visions was added, there were plenty of better options added. On top of that, once atma and cruor buffs came into the equation, there were plenty of old pieces that jumped up the list and became better as well.

TL;DR: Full perle didn't ungimp anything at today's standard, it just gave gimp a standard uniform.

That said, it is recognized here that Perle body beats ebody at this point, though neither are ideal.

[Koyangi]

My question was probably better had it been asked right after Visions release and not so much now, however, lots of perle hate existed right after visions release.