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    Not that it's important, but my dad was able to contact my family over there. They seemed really scared and are hiding in their homes, but couldn't say much because they know the government listens on the lines there. It does sound like they're worried though about what this could mean since they are Christian. It's a weird situation for them, the dictatorship has never given 100% protection to the nonIslamic there (my cousins get beaten in schools all the time, my aunt is beaten by her husband and has no rights since he is Muslim and she is Christian), but they have given some (barricades and military around the churches so they can go to mass). I think they are seeing this as Islamic extremist coming into power, and are afraid they will lose the rights (and lives) they have.

    I can only hope that if they do overtake the government it's those of a more younger "world view" mindset than the older extremists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olo401 View Post
    Meanwhile on Fox News... John Bolton sez Al Qaeda's gonna take over Egypt and it'll be Obama's fault because he's a sekrit muslim that's propping up Mubarak!

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    (Link if you really want to watch this moron talk - http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/world...-24000321.html)

    Ugh.. can we please stuff Grumpy McMoustacheride back in the closet?
    The Middle east is currently in a shock from what's happening in Egypt. Everyone i know have been following this since it started (Tunisia).
    John Bolton actually summed it up correctly. Yes the main protesters are the poor Egyptians but there are alot of reports about the "brothers muslims" taking advantage of the chaos and stirring more problems to try and down the government. I'm a muslim and proud of it. but this group is an extremist and there's no doubt in my mind that it could facilitate Al Qaeda's movements in Egypt if they happen to take over the country.

    Power to the Egyptians. I just hope this doesn't lead to total chaos in the region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaza View Post
    The Middle east is currently in a shock from what's happening in Egypt. Everyone i know have been following this since it started (Tunisia).
    John Bolton actually summed it up correctly. Yes the main protesters are the poor Egyptians but there are alot of reports about the "brothers muslims" taking advantage of the chaos and stirring more problems to try and down the government. I'm a muslim and proud of it. but this group is an extremist and there's no doubt in my mind that it could facilitate Al Qaeda's movements in Egypt if they happen to take over the country.

    Power to the Egyptians. I just hope this doesn't lead to total chaos in the region.
    What the fuck are you even talking about? The Muslim brotherhood? Al Qaeda? There's an entire ocean of difference between those two groups.

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    Yeah, from what I've looked up the Muslim Brotherhood seems to be - about the same as to a little bit worse - than christian fundamentalist republicans.
    Not exactly wonderful people, a bit overzealous, but not completely batshit loco.

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    Muslim Brotherhood is just a scary word they're using on us media, switch to aje or bbc

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    The point is, while Al Qaeda advocates violence in order to achieve the goal of a caliphate, reform society, amongst other things, the MB advocates working through the political establishment to reform society.

    When people talk about Al Qaeda negatively, they're usually implying this group's use of violence, but the MB doesn't do this, so comparing the two as if they were both involved in the same kind of violence is profoundly stupid.

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    Man i hope this shit spreads to Saudi Arabia and the other fag monarchy/dictatorships that the US lies in bed with constantly.

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    Well, Tunisia was first, now Egypt, and protests are starting up in other nations.
    If the populace succeeds again in Egypt, it seems like others will try.

    Edit: ah, here we are.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2...World_protests

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    It is truly amazing how often Al Qaeda's name is thrown around.

    Anyways, yea...don't see how dismissing everyone but himself is going to sit well with the people, curious to see what the reaction will be.

    And Suez Canal closing? lolright, no one is that stupid.

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    Wow, go Egypt, go fight for that which you desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoolander View Post
    And Suez Canal closing? lolright, no one is that stupid.
    The British will team up with the France and Israel to secure it and make sure it stays open.

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    Here we go again

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    opps lol somehow missed Israel in your post... Ah oh well ya that be a fun fight today I bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkrish View Post
    Wow, go Egypt, go fight for that which you desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    The point is, while Al Qaeda advocates violence in order to achieve the goal of a caliphate, reform society, amongst other things, the MB advocates working through the political establishment to reform society.

    When people talk about Al Qaeda negatively, they're usually implying this group's use of violence, but the MB doesn't do this, so comparing the two as if they were both involved in the same kind of violence is profoundly stupid.
    In fairness, practically every islamic fundamentalist group in existence was founded by a member of, taught by, funded, or in some way heavily influenced by the MB. They've never done anything themselves... but it's clear who pulls the strings in the middle east on that end of the spectrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    This whole setting-yourself-on-fire craze is a hell of a way to start a revolution.
    If it ain't broken, why fix it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darus Grey View Post
    In fairness, practically every islamic fundamentalist group in existence was founded by a member of, taught by, funded, or in some way heavily influenced by the MB. They've never done anything themselves... but it's clear who pulls the strings in the middle east on that end of the spectrum.
    Directly? No.

    Influenced by? Yes.

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    Mubarak has sent in the army to restore order in Cairo, Alexandria and Suez but protesters cheered the army in some areas, calling on them to side with them against the police (3.43 pm). In some areas the army has done so. Soldiers have shaken hands with protesters in Alexandria and in Cairo.
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