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    Quote Originally Posted by Osede View Post
    If you have watch Chernobyl documentary because, a certain level of radiation could right away damage any machine, like the russia helicopter just collapse and break into pieces in mid air above the reactor. Furthermore, the japan self defense just mad on TEPCO because they try to hiding some serious issue when asking for help.
    That helicopter went down due to pilot error. The rotors collided with a cable suspended from a crane. Radiation may have affected the pilot's ability to operate the helicopter, or it may not have, but radiation certainly didn't cause it to "just collapse and break into pieces in mid air."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    That helicopter went down due to pilot error. The rotors collided with a cable suspended from a crane. Radiation may have affected the pilot's ability to operate the helicopter, or it may not have, but radiation certainly didn't cause it to "just collapse and break into pieces in mid air."
    Was just going to post that. I've seen that video and it obviously hits a cable. Radiation isn't some kind of magic beam, heh.

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    An full CT scan hits you with more radiation than you get in a year in a whole lot less than a few hours. See that chart above. Obviously most people don't get those, but it still doesn't mean the plant is that bad for you. Maybe if you had a few X-rays and a CT scan AND live near the plant you may wanna step back a bit.
    Yes, but a CT scan also ends after a short while. If the radiation persists in that area, then that's horrible for japan. But this is also all assuming it's at that level of radiation in the area, since all they are willing to say is "minimal amount". It's the vagueness that annoys me...

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    This chart is pretty fucking precise:


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    Yup

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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...rn-quebec.html

    A minor earthquake of magnitude 4.7 has been reported in western Quebec, with tremors extending from the greater Montreal region to Ottawa.
    Felt this where I live in Ottawa. I know its nothing huge compared to whats going on obviously, but earthquakes here are really rare, this just an eerie conincidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meian View Post


    Yup
    Haha, that's awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Yes, but a CT scan also ends after a short while. If the radiation persists in that area, then that's horrible for japan. But this is also all assuming it's at that level of radiation in the area, since all they are willing to say is "minimal amount". It's the vagueness that annoys me...
    There's nothing vague about it. A millisievert is a unit that represents an amount of energy your tissue would absorb. For instance, according to wikipedia, this are the amounts of millisieverts you could expect to absorb from a few different things.

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    Eating 1 banana		0.0001 mSv
    Dental X-Ray		0.005 mSv
    Mammogram		3 mSv
    Brain CT scan		0.8–5 mSv
    Chest CT scan		6–18 mSv
    Posted already, but this chart may be helpful.



    The blue line on the chart is the maximum value observed, in millisieverts per/hour, on the perimeter of the plant. So even at the worst of it, standing at the perimeter of the plant for an entire hour would result in perhaps less radiation than you might absorb in the process of having a single chest CT scan.

    Also, these rates are going to decrease in a manner that is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source. So, in other words, let's say the perimeter of the plant was 50 meters away from the source (the reactor.) At that point, the greatest rate thus far was 12 mSev per hour. Being 100m away from the source, or around 300 feet away from the reactor, would result in radiation levels of around 3 mSev per hour. Standing there for an hour would yield the radiation dose equivalent of a mammogram.

    In reality, that inverse square relationship isn't going to apply exactly as it's only perfectly accurate a source that isn't shielded in any way and that exists in a single point. At places close to the plant, weird geometry and reflections are going produce a variety of results. The 12 mSev max was the point on the perimeter where these factors coalesced to produce the greatest results. Also, the farther away you get, the more applicable the generalization becomes in the sense that those geometry factors are less significant. It will actually decrease faster due to things absorbing some of it along the way.

    Either way, you wouldn't want to be just living near the reactor while this is going on. But nobody outside of the employees working near the reactor are in any danger, at this point.

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    Also from wikipedia-

    Typical dose near Chernobyl reactor 4 and its fragments, shortly after explosion: ≈ 10 000–300 000 mSv/hr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    That helicopter went down due to pilot error. The rotors collided with a cable suspended from a crane. Radiation may have affected the pilot's ability to operate the helicopter, or it may not have, but radiation certainly didn't cause it to "just collapse and break into pieces in mid air."
    But that shit happens ALL the time in the movies, you mean it's not 100% fact?

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    Point is, "radiation" isn't the problem. It becomes problematic when there is a spread of radioactive material that contaminates areas indefinitely.

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    Yeah, they keep making sure to say human health. That's not to say that these particles wont have a major impact on the environment, especially the farming land that is near the reactor. Not to mention fish and aquatic life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    I just wanted to pop in and remind everyone that 3-mile island had 0 casualties - and the thing about goat's milk being contaminated or whatever...

    You know how they test if suspected counterfeit wine made pre-1940 is actually from that period?

    It has less carbon-14 in it...because carbon-14 in the air was elevated by nuclear testing.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...wines-10-03-24

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Shinzon* View Post
    Not to mention fish and aquatic life.
    The high levels of mercury in them will protect them!

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    BBC: "2027: Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has said it is also concerned about the spent fuel storage pool inside the building housing reactor 3 at Fukushima Daiichi. The pools at both reactors 3 and 4 are reportedly boiling - there may not even be any water left in reactor 4's pool - and unless the spent fuel rods are cooled down, they could emit large quantities radiation. Radioactive steam was earlier said to be coming from reactor 3's pool. If cooling operations did not proceed well, the situation would "reach a critical stage in a couple of days", an agency official told the Kyodo news agency."

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    lol'd hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by foopy View Post

    sorry, that was too good to leave on the last page.

    *edit apparently my default page settings are inferior ; ;

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