New Procs and Discernment thread (Voidwatch and Dynamis)

**Mojo** · 2011-05-10 02:38

I figure it would probably be best to aggregate all of the information regarding these occurrences in one location. If you want to be helpful, please post anything in regards to discernment or procs here. For example, while fighting Sallow Seymour today, I got a discernment message for Great Sword while using Provoke and a discernment message for Light Magic while casting Flash. To make information easier to process, please include the following details (you can copy my format too if you like!)

Code:

Type	Discernment
Area	North Gustaberg
Mob	Sallow Seymour
Ability	Provoke
Discern	Great Sword

Code:

Type	Discernment
Area	North Gustaberg
Mob	Sallow Seymour
Ability	Flash
Discern	Light Magic

If you stagger something, please include this information.

Code:

Type	Stagger
Area	-
Mob	-
Ability	-
Color	-

With color, just do your best, as there may be more types of staggers now so the old convention (ruby/azure/amber) may not work. I think there are probably five (red, blue, yellow, green and white) for Voidwalkers, but that's just my gut feeling.

Either way, please keep irrelevant discussion to a minimum. I'll try and update the OP to reflect everyone's data in an appealing way, I don't want to have to sift a lot of random stuff.

**Malacite** · 2011-05-10 02:48

Ugh, so job abilities & weaponskills are in the same category huh? Shitty.

Also, would just like to point out that in the update preview they show a giant mandy with grellow !! being done by Chakra. Looked like it was in Sarta.

**Zag** · 2011-05-10 02:53

Originally Posted by Malacite

Ugh, so job abilities & weaponskills are in the same category huh? Shitty.

Also, would just like to point out that in the update preview they show a giant mandy with grellow !! being done by Chakra. Looked like it was in Sarta.

Chakra doesn't shoot out a giant ball malacite..... That would be chi blast.

**Rocl** · 2011-05-10 02:58

Discerns:

Code:

Type	Discernment
Area	East Ronfaure
Mob	Sarimanok
Ability	Blade: Hi
Discern	Club

Code:

Type	Discernment
Area	East Ronfaure
Mob	Sarimanok
Ability	Blade: Hi
Discern	Katana

Code:

Type	Discernment
Area	East Ronfaure
Mob	Sarimanok
Ability	Blade: Ku
Discern	Great Sword

Code:

Type	Discernment
Area	East Ronfaure
Mob	Sarimanok
Ability	Blade: Ten
Discern	Staff

Staggers:

Code:

Type	Stagger
Area	Dynamis - Beaucedine
Mob	Vanguard Constable
Ability Tachi: Fudo
Color	- Red

Code:

Type	Stagger
Area	Dynamis - Beaucedine
Mob	Vanguard Purloiner
Ability Provoke
Color	- Red

Both of these red staggers inflicted terror.

Code:

Type	Stagger
Area	East Ronfaure
Mob	Sarimanok
Ability Blade: Ten
Color	- "Grellow"

Code:

Type	Stagger
Area	East Ronfaure
Mob	Sarimanok
Ability Asuran Fists
Color	- "Grellow"

No discernible change in behaviour after these staggers. In retrospect, I think they may have been terrorized for a brief period, but nowhere near the normal amount of time for a 'red stagger.'

**Sylvrdragon** · 2011-05-10 04:44

You might wanna include Time of day and Day of week in that template considering what we know about the old stagger conventions. They may not be the same systems, but they may still use the same tools.

**Mafai** · 2011-05-10 10:07

Originally Posted by Malacite

Also, would just like to point out that in the update preview they show a giant mandy with grellow !! being done by Chakra. Looked like it was in Sarta.

oh boy

On topic, you should add gameday / game time to the list so we can possibly identify any patterns

**Churchill** · 2011-05-10 10:36

Couldn't tell you day/time, Puk in E_Ron

Red Triggers:
Blade: Jin
Atonement

Yellow Trigger:
Hyoton: Ichi

More triggers were met but I was tanking so I didn't catch them all...but we had standard proc jobs present so it was within the realm of BLM/BRD/NIN/WHM.

**Renzy** · 2011-05-10 12:01

Stagger
Area - Dynamis - Xarcabard
Mob - Kindred Warrior
Ability - Victory Smite
Color - Red

7:32 Watersday

Alarial · 2011-05-10 12:05

Staggered Voidwatch Worm with Circle Blade (red stagger..). I'm also fairly certain it was using a WS when it was staggered. Got message for pet special attacks, staff, great katana, sword, and dark magic during the fight. Triggered Dark magic/sword/GK. Don't remember day/time.

**Malacite** · 2011-05-10 12:47

Originally Posted by Zag

Chakra doesn't shoot out a giant ball malacite..... That would be chi blast.

fucking 4 a.m., that's what I meant.

**Mafai** · 2011-05-10 13:16

Originally Posted by Malacite

fucking 4 a.m., that's what I meant.

everyone knows you actually thought chi blast was chakra, but thats okay

**Mojo** · 2011-05-10 14:05

No more stupid posts please. Also, given the little bit of information that has surfaced since yesterday, it will probably be useful to include the following additional information for both staggers and discerns.

Time (vana'diel)

And for staggers, it may also be useful to provide the following.

Blue Enhancement
Red Enhancement
Yellow Enhancement
Green Enhancement
White Enhancement

Code:

Type	Discernment
Area	-
Time	-
Mob	-
Ability	-
Discern	-

Code:

Type	Stagger
Area	-
Time	-
Mob	-
Ability	-
Color	-
Blue	-
Red	-
Yellow	-
Green	-
White	-

**Xilk** · 2011-05-10 23:47

Type Stagger
Area - North Gustaberg S
Time -
Mob - Ushumgal
Ability - Nimble Snap
Color -
Blue -
Red -
Yellow - Yellow, % unrecorded.
Green -
White

**Rocl** · 2011-05-11 00:37

Code:

Type	Stagger
Area	Dynamis - Xarcabard
Mob	Kindred Dragoon
Ability Mordant Rime
Color	- Red

Code:

Type	Stagger
Area	Dynamis - Xarcabard
Mob	Vanguard Dark Knight
Ability Blade: Hi
Color	- Red

Attempted to proc again, did not re-proc.

Firesday, early ~2:00 for both

**Kukuk** · 2011-05-11 01:26

Got about 15?ish red procs in Dynamis bastok tonight, we noticed they almost all came from mythic/relic/empy weaponskills, also got several red procs from spells rangeing from Blizzard 1 to addle and sleep 2. as well as provoke. GL figureing out dynamis procs that arent ws based lol. Any1 get a red proc in dynamis from a weaponskill that wasnt a mythic/relic or empy ws?

**jimbobsonofgod** · 2011-05-11 02:20

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...ur/stagger.jpg
[23:25:37] You find a pair of commodore bottes on the Vanguard Purloiner.

**Malacite** · 2011-05-11 12:26

^ Oh lawd, so now BST Jugs have staggers?

**Arthars** · 2011-05-11 13:33

Posted this on voidwatch thread, so might as well put here too:

target Sallow Seymour:

just got exploration with 25% white... weakness kept changing/showing differently in the entire fight but always loops (wind/water/earth magic, axe/h2h/polearm/katana/bow for weapon skill, DRK/SMN BPs/WYVERNWTF abilities) still more tho but i cant remember all

we just happen to not have those jobs, so we only proced a katana WS with blade ten and it gives 25% white(red stagger)... magnitude cloud proced a yellow and it gives other color % as highly vulnerable weakness. We also proced another yellow but it doesnt give white as well (cant remember which magic) but gives other color %

this is an entirely luck based system if u ask me...and u need almost all the jobs to cover as u cannot warp ._.

Additional notes: We popped on waters day..... And magic weakness is Earth Water and Wind... which is the same as abyssea actually... However they may be more magic that i missed out since weapon skills have 5 weapon type. There is a chance it is still random tho but we only fought once and these are what i can gather for now.

**itskguys** · 2011-05-11 14:23

Code:

 
Type	Discernment
Area	- South Gusta
Time	- Thundersday, exact time unknown
Mob	- Sallow Seymour
Ability	- Sunburst
Discern	- Staff

Type	Discernment
Area	- South Gusta
Time	- Thundersday, exact time unknown
Mob	- Sallow Seymour
Ability	- Retribution
Discern	- Great Katana

Type	Discernment
Area	- South Gusta
Time	- Thundersday, exact time unknown
Mob	- Sallow Seymour
Ability	- Unknown WS
Discern	- Polearm

Type Discernment
Area	- South Gusta
Time	- Thundersday, exact time unknown
Mob	- Sallow Seymour
Ability	- Unknown WS
Discern	- Sword

Discernment
Area	- South Gusta
Time	- Thundersday, exact time unknown
Mob	- Sallow Seymour
Ability	- Unknown Magic
Discern	- Wind

Type	Stagger
Area	- South Gusta
Time	- Thundersday, exact time unknown
Mob	- Sallow Seymour
Ability	- Provoke
Color	- Unknown
Blue	- 
Red	-
Yellow	-
Green	-
White	-
Caused 3 lights, not white to go up 20-50ish.

Got all the melee hints more than once each..

Sorry for lack of info but wanted to post what i had.

Type	Stagger
Area	- Dyna Jeuno
Time	- Lights day 13:00ish
Mob	- Vanguard Alchemist
Ability	- Stun
Color	- Red

Type	Stagger
Area	- Dyna Jeuno
Time	- Lights day 15:00ish
Mob	- Vanguard Hitman
Ability	- Voke
Color	- Red
Dropped 3 Coins

Type	Stagger
Area	- Dyna Jeuno
Time	- Lights day 22:30ish
Mob	- Vanguard Shaman
Ability	- Sleepga (wasn't the targetted mob)
Color	- Red
Dropped 3 coins

**Renzy** · 2011-05-15 05:19

This is a list of all the Voidwatch staggers we have gotten so far, I didn't write the time/day of all them down but I can go through screenshots/logs and find out if needed;

Weapon Skills

Club - True Strike.
Great Axe - Sturmwind.
Great Katana - Tachi: Jinpu, Tachi: Rana.
Great Sword - Herculean Slash.
Katana - Blade: Yu.
Polearm - Leg Sweep.
Staff - Spirit Taker.
Sword - Burning Blade, Shining Blade, Atonement, Sanguine Blade.

Magic

Fire - Fire 3, Firaga 3.
Ice - Blizzaga(?), Blizzard 3, Frost Breath.
Wind - Earth Threnody, Hecatomb Wave.
Earth - Doton: Ni, Magnetite Cloud, Lightning Threnody.
Water - Suiton: Ni.
Light - Banish 3, Magic Finale.
Darkness - Aspir 2.

Abilities

Paladin - Shield Bash.

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