New MMO by SE

[Draylo]

So was it announced?

[Ksandra]

Front Mission Evolved

Sold ~ 195k

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales...ssion-evolved/

Only profit wise I could find was this:

[Gamespot link removed]

where they state:

The estimate to break-even is 100,000 units from the neoGAF analysts. In layman's terms, FM Evolved only needs to sell 100,000 copies so they can gain profits for every copy sold after 100,000.

So = profit

Chocobo Racing,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocobo_Racing#Reception

sold 300k copies. can't find actual profits but can't even remotely imagine it had more than 3x the overhead as front mission.

Kayne and Lynch 2,

Probably your worst example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kane_%26_Lynch_2:_Dog_Days

Kane and Lynch 2 has sold over 1 million copies worldwide

Of which is considered:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-year-on-ffxiv

The gaming high points were Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days and Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2, which each sold one million units.

Several articles mention K&L as being sold extremely well.

Crystal Defenders R1,

can't find anything on this one way or the other

The Crystal Chronicles series on the Wii,

only one you might have actually gotten right as the series has declined greatly.

http://www.finalfantasyunion.com/new...hise--807.html

http://www.finalfantasyunion.com/new...cles-sales.jpg

Infinite Undiscovery,

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales...e-undiscovery/
sold ~ 575k

was a big hit in japan

http://www.1up.com/news/running-gamu...su-rpg-reviews

Nier

Sold ~ 400k for ps3 and 200k for xbox

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/34736/nier/

http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/34735/nier/


according to this:

[Gamespot link removed]

they probably broke even around 400k sales.




So basically out of all you said only one was a failure. Now of course a lot of this is mostly guesswork because SE doesn't really give overhead. But it's a lot better than just assuming all overheads are the same and if a game doesn't sell +mil it must have failed, because as you said, those aren't their major games...which also means they don't spend as much money to make them...which means they don't have to sell as much to make a profit.


Basically, prove otherwise, which I'm more than willing to admit some of this could be off as a lot is based on guesswork. But at least it's a lot more thought involved than just assuming SE has had a string of failures with nothing to back it up.

[Hyan]

Mindjack? I can't see them profiting off that one.

[Ksandra]

Mindjack? I can't see them profiting off that one.

totally bombed. Probably the only really solid example of a complete failure by SE outside of 14 in this thread. I am not about to babysit people though and look up every single sales figure. point stands though even with that "stream of failures" is an exaggeration.

[miokomioko]

hahahah mindjack...

[Ksandra]

hahahah mindjack...

ya that one probably failed more than 14 lol

Spoiler: show

well not really, but it was really bad

[Odin'sLaw]

mindjack failed more then 14 did and you know it, as long as buttons is playing 14 thats at least 1 more then mindderp

[Lucavi]

How the hell did I forget Mindjack. Nevertheless, if you're only calling one of those a "failure", then I guess I can't argue. Glory to SE and their massive successes in the last decade. I'm sure they'll be just fine in the future.

[Ksandra]

How the hell did I forget Mindjack. Nevertheless, if you're only calling one of those a "failure", then I guess I can't argue. Glory to SE and their massive successes in the last decade. I'm sure they'll be just fine in the future.

never said they were massive successes either. You need to learn to trun your exaggeration button off even in sarcasm.


Obviously they failed in some places as shown per SE's profit loss. But my point wasn't that they haven't failed, just that they aren't failing in every game ie "stream of failures".