Haven't read through the thread, but Nomura said sometime when doing Versus that it was the way 'he invisioned FF13' (So with zippers and emo, right?) but also that he would basically eat shit before he allowed it to be on the Xbox. I'll look for a link later, I'm pretty sure it was 1up. Anyway, the speculation was that Versus and Agito are suffering in development hell because of trouble in SE due to Nomura being a queen + 14's disastrous implosion.