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    I know bro, but he's still just a final boss that fills the "Final Boss out of no where, making the plotline semi pointless" boss quota. If SID is the final boss and not this random ass clone, then it's a redeeming quality at least.
    Unfortunately, it won't even live up to already low expectations.

    So let down still. I actually had high hopes for AGE, even though Flit's Arc started off slow, and was unevenly paced. This is the problem of trying to compact 3 series into one, I guess. This could have easily been much better, should they had just made it 3 separate series over time. Flit's story would have been that much better due to him having the very best character development out of the three generations, we would have seen more epic Super Pilot fight by Asemu, and Kio would not have been so useless in his own 49 episode story.
    I would say that fitting multiple generations into anything short of like 100 episodes probably won't end as anything but rushed, but this was only compounded by fucking Hino's awful writing and characterization.

    This 0079 War Reboot/Reimaging & Unicorn could not come any faster. I need them to wash away the memories of AGE. AGE might be seriously the only Gundam show I will never watch again in it's entirety.
    This is going to be a very painful wait for Episode 6, such an awful series. And we're probably going to get an announcement on the Destiny HD remaster at the end of the month. So, yeah. I guess between the SEED remasters (can't wait to see how Morosawa and Fukuda fuck Destiny up even more), and Muv-Luv, at least we have shit to laugh at for being so bad until Ep. 6 comes to save us from the failure.



    This Anon summed up some pretty fair criticisms and complaints about AGE.

    Although i'm not sure it was "sexism" as much as it was just really stupid and shitty use of female characters (especially Captain Coloring Book). But really, this level of incompitence/hamfisting dumb shit is just inexcusable. Lessons clearly were not learned (or were they just forgotten?) from the two SEED series. AGE will probably hurt especially because of the poor merchandise sales, and numerous accounts (visual, sales reports, etc.) of retailers worldwide slashing prices on AGE kits by half or more to just get the fucking things off the shelves. It's going to be shunned harder than G-Saviour at this rate (AGE isn't UC at the very least, so it can't be cut off from the timeline and just thrown to the abyss like G-Saviour).

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    Hmm, well I don't think it'll go the way of G-Saviour, but it's definitely the very bottom of the barrel when it comes to Gundam anime.

    The best thing is that, I don't see a movie coming out of this. I do see a special edition of episode 48 & 49 with a lengthened Asemu v Zeheart fight, and a lengthened final fight vs random clone & SID. All OVA style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Hmm, well I don't think it'll go the way of G-Saviour, but it's definitely the very bottom of the barrel when it comes to Gundam anime.

    The best thing is that, I don't see a movie coming out of this. I do see a special edition of episode 48 & 49 with a lengthened Asemu v Zeheart fight, and a lengthened final fight vs random clone & SID. All OVA style.
    It wouldn't be unwarranted for AGE to just go away; it's not like it even has a large fanbase at all like SEED incomprihensibly does (which, regardless of quality, it'll continue to be worked on in some capacity as a result of said fanbase). I doubt that special editions scenario will happen; it seems like the Level 5 people are the only ones who don't want this to just go away already. Plus it seems like it actually is the worst series in terms of sales performance, so who would really even buy a SE if they utterly failed to capture their target demographic, and no one else gives a fuck?

    Even the VAs are pretty frustrated with Hino and late scripts/missing meetings. So I can only imagine studio executives and the like seething over how badly AGE turned out. I doubt many expected it to be anything but average or so, but not like this. lol I wonder how badly AGE failing will affect L5's other anime and stuff; surely there will be some reprocussions or something.

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    Bitchin with this atm




    Just looks wrong


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    AGE won't be getting any special edition. People don't even buy the normal DVDs and it's not well liked at all, SEED at leastl had copious amounts of fanservice, 1-2 likable people and popular jpop music that got peoples attention.

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    Well, the music in AGE is actually good, haha.

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    It has some good songs, sure.

    It just so happens those songs probably deserved a better series than what they got.

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    Couple things I wished they touched on:

    EXA-DB and the past Gundam from Asuno's family line. Had they ignored that hiling care girl and did something like that, I would have been happy.

    There were some hit or miss moments in this, hit 75%, but it's def going to impact future Gundam titles in some form. I did have hopes on the '100 year war' concept, but the execution overall wasn't great at all. It really did have too many cliches and that's what made it falter.

    I REALLY want an original Gundam series that does not try to reference the older series for fanservice. But that seems near impossible.

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    A good start, potentially, would be a female main character.

    I love my UC, but an AU series that breaks away from Gundam standards would be cool too. 00 S1 kinda broke away from this stuff reasonably well; though our fondness and high regard for it is probably based more on what went on and stuff. The movie could have been better, but trying to communicate with an alien species is new for Gundam if nothing else. Perhaps a series could handle this better/differently (but then it'd kinda be Macross, wouldn't it?).

    I wouldn't be shocked if Tomino has the main character of G-Reko be female; he almost did it in Turn-A. For what could very well be the last Gundam project he ever does, it would be good to see what he does with it.

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    AGE 1 can't kill nemore vagans without his hands



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    As if he could kill anymore because of the UNDERSTANDING.

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    The only one we really got with a female main character was 0080 and I can't really say I enjoyed it as much as a lot of other series. If we get a female lead, it needs to somehow break the mold of what we typically see with female characters in gundam series. I'm with the idea of a completely unrelated series where there's gundams and none of the UNDERSTANDING shit. Fight it out, show us the drama normal in a gundam series and let it all play out normally. For once I really would love pilots who don't give a fuck instead of "oh no, I killed someone."

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    As i've said before, understanding is fine if it's not done in such a hamfisted fucking retarded manner like it was in AGE. Kill who needs to be killed/can't be redeemed/won't go along with this, spare everyone else as is practical. Most of the people (outside of AGE and SEED) are shown as being decent people who go along with assholes in power for reasons. AGE and SEED really shit this up with the Vagians as a whole, and Earth Alliance (among others).

    Kio probably wouldn't be so hated (he might even be liked) if he did that, if nothing else. Maybe his UNDERSTANDING getting someone killed, and learning from it after that the first time would have gone a long way. But nope.

    And we do have plenty of Yazan and Ali-types. But even as mains (in anime), they're REALLY rare. I don't know if a series would work with them either, unless we're ok with (probably) minimal development for them (since struggling with actions in war is the general Gundam theme, besides war being bad). I don't really even know which main character possibly even skirts that type... Chirico from VOTOMS maybe?

    The way I could see a Yazan or Ali lead series working is if the asshole dies at the end. Maybe in a pathetic manner or something, just as comeuppance. Or killing everyone. But only if the series was bad (like AGE or SEED).

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    Yeah, I see what you're saying. I feel like AGE may have saved itself if it didn't, in all honesty, go full retard with Zeheart and Kio's pulling a more useless Kira Yamato. Hell, Kira had UNDERSTANDING all over but at least he fought when required instead of simply getting punched around because you want to be friends with all of the damned universe. Here's the new AGE-FX and system for it but you'll probably never use it since it doesn't make hugging people easier.

    I love UC and the entire war setting in general because I feel like it does a lot to build characters quickly and makes you pull for one or the other (ala 08th MS Team). If we were to roll in UC or something new created I would like to see the pilots as military related and for once the abandoning young boy rises to adult theme that most series have.

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    00 did understanding rather well; Ribbons and the others needed to die, or at least have their ability to do stuff neutralized. Plus the whole dialouges thing being indeed about man's first encounter with aliens was a good touch (especially since not too long prior, mankind was still in large-scale conflict with itself) that forced humanity to work together (for the second time, the first being the "threat" of Celestial Being).

    AGE and SEED basicly just dream of doing this shit right; their writers are both quite bad too, so the two series being derpy in general is probably not a coincidence. I don't think i'll feel quite as much dissapointment and mayad at AGE by the time Ep. 6 comes to pull us from the wreckage of AGE, but if I take any consolation, we didn't get Hiraiface/SAMEFACE in AGE.

    It would be cool to have more Shiros as leads as well (though if we wanted youthful longevity, we'd probably have to compromise with a very late-teen or something I guess..). There's alot of UC side-material with people who voluntarily joined the military (not out of circumstance, etc.). They just probably wouldn't be much more than short OVA series though.

    It wouldn't be new at all or anything, but contrasting two people of roughly the same age who joined the same military under differing circumstances might be a fresher take as they try to cope with what happens (could lead to some reality shattering shit too, as the enlisted person has to do some stuff that they naively thought otherwise about).

    Ultimately though, as AGE and SEED illustrate, if you set a theme or goal for the fucking series it might be a good idea to establish a coherent and logical framework for how that's to happen. AGE was especially bad in this regard; if Hino shit the bed this badly in a 49 episode anime, I wonder if his writing is at least mildly better in the games by L5 (I assume he manages not to fuck Layton up, since people seem to like that series).

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    Was there ever an explanation behind Zehearts Char mask?

    I mean, aside from the very little the anime tells you.

    They say at the start that taking it off reduces its effectiveness, thus leading the viewer on that he will not be taking it off for a long time, if again during the majority of the series.

    Then he proceeds to remove it not even 3 episodes later (iirc), only to put it back on, then remove it again, then put it back on again and finally remove it for the last time during the entire third timeskip, and it's never mentioned again.

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    His mask hold his x rounder powers at bay. Kinda like Kenpachi's eyepatch holds his reiatsu down.

    That's about it.

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    His X Rounder powers were too much for any machine ever given to him, so the mask holds it down to a certain level so he can operate it without feeling its handicap too much. When he finally unlocks the power of Legilis he doesn't need the mask anymore so discards it.

    And Christina Mckenzie was actually pretty popular, as was 0080. People like the realistic tactical type OYW battles that 0080 and 8th MS team brought to the series. I'd be surprised to see a female gundam lead in a non-OVA though, best bet is a trap like Loran from Turn A dressing like a chick again.

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    Episode 7 is being written already, and it looks like there's going to be a "new" MS capable of equaling the FA Unicorn in combat for that episode; Ep. 6 has been in production for afew months now (but we knew that).

    Edit: Since this is provoking dumbfucks everywhere, there is no evidence it's the Hi-Nu or Nightingale. Sure, it would be just amazing to have Full Frontal troll and awe everyone like that, but let's keep it in our pants until we at least get through Ep. 6.

    ^That isn't for the regulars, since we don't go full retard speculation here, but moreso for everyone else I guess who are likely more susceptible to misinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelweiss View Post
    Edit: Since this is provoking dumbfucks everywhere, there is no evidence it's the Hi-Nu or Nightingale. Sure, it would be just amazing to have Full Frontal troll and awe everyone like that, but let's keep it in our pants until we at least get through Ep. 6.

    ^That isn't for the regulars, since we don't go full retard speculation here, but moreso for everyone else I guess who are likely more susceptible to misinformation.
    Majority of people on m are retards so this type of speculation should not surprise you. It being Hi-Nu makes no sense anyway since the whole purpose of them adding the custom stuff to Unicorn is to generate model sales and Hi-Nu has an HGUC + MG release already(releasing it as a Unicorn version skin will have UC diehards screaming bloody murder).

    Funny thing would be a giant mobile armor with bits shaped like Char's previous mobile suits.

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