Voidwatch NM Weaknesses

**Slycer** · 2011-07-15 13:51

Originally Posted by Mahoro

But enough reports of Holy Mist here that I will use that as a go-to from here on out.

I dont want to confuse anybody, I'm pretty sure the only Holy Mist reports here were from me, both of which were from last night (plus one from the past that I think was Holy Mist but am not certain). I certainly hope the list is limited to maybe 2 possibilities from each avatar, though, because otherwise it would be impossible to even try them all without having at least two or three SMNs.

**Kryton** · 2011-07-15 14:24

My group has had Shiva's Rush Proc 3 times already, so when we see normal or highly blood pact we start with that first.

We have also seen Carbuncle's Holy Mist proc once, and one Fenrir BP, but I am unsure which from last night, I will have to ask the SMN.

The new ones are from Diabolos, Somnolence and Camisado.

For BP procs, we try to proc the known ones first. Then try to proc other BP from other avatars on that same "tier" of BP.

Then we cycle through all avatars, using all BPs (limited by time), to find the new BPs that will proc.

**grevenilvec75** · 2011-07-15 14:31

Originally Posted by Arthars

friend landed 1 in 3 tries on hahava

Multiple Hahavas? Cause the fight only lasts 30 minutes

**Slycer** · 2011-07-15 14:55

Originally Posted by grevenilvec75

Multiple Hahavas? Cause the fight only lasts 30 minutes

MV reuse timer is 10 minutes.

**Kryton** · 2011-07-15 16:01

One thing to note concerning SMN BP ability.

When testing for which BP will proc, note that some Blood Pact: Ward will proc, such as Diabolos' Somnolence. I believe this can be true for other BP: Wards that can target the mob such as Fenrir's BP: Ward. Just keep this in mind when trying to proc and not tunnel vision on BP: Rages only.

On that note, it was Fenrir: Moonlit Charge that proc last night.

**grevenilvec75** · 2011-07-15 17:34

Originally Posted by Slycer

MV reuse timer is 10 minutes.

Yeah i'm retarded. Would have to use it within the first 10 minutes though.

**Arthars** · 2011-07-15 23:10

Random Deal, Wild Card to use more MV

and also dont be surprised if you cant proc all BPs with 1 SMN due to timing and call it BS that all BPs can proc because DRG's wyvern cannot proc shit either if it repeatedly decide to use just some particular breathes

it is luck and sometimes you get near impossible procs like blind II(who merit it anyway. I do but for my wife's RDM just for VW) on hahava who resist 90% darkness.

Luck is luck in VW, except you get alot of possible weakness to cap than just rely on 1 in abyssea

**JustaWAR** · 2011-07-16 18:15

Procced with Armor Break - Great Axe

**Kaisha** · 2011-07-16 21:23

Unsorted list of most of the procs I could catch in the log during an LS run of 6 kills.

Spoiler: show

**Scrynth** · 2011-07-17 12:14

LS run last night:

Spoiler: show

**Kryton** · 2011-07-17 14:12

Only thing new I found was for RNG JA, Bounty Shot, can proc.

**Slycer** · 2011-07-18 00:48

Another bunch of procs:

Spoiler: show

**Slycer** · 2011-07-20 02:03

Yet more

Spoiler: show

**Mahoro** · 2011-07-20 11:22

Carbuncle Holy Mist is definitely a go-to SMN proc. After reading this thread, when my LS did VW last night and got an avatar msg, Holy Mist was the first thing I tried and it worked. Thanks for the tips!

**Shenrien** · 2011-07-20 16:25

voidwatch procs seem to be anything of element, perhaps not 100% on spell, anyone try spamming same spell over and over again and seeing if you can get a proc like you can in dynamis, cause this list pretty much shows anything has a chance to proc it seems >.>

**Kaisha** · 2011-07-20 19:29

Some more. RDM Cat2 merits making themselves worthwhile for once.

Spoiler: show

I've been trying to look out for trends, but aside from some coincidences (I've proc'd more Banishga2s on light-ele than I can count), I'm not seeing anything. Was hoping for more blue mage procs, but nothing came up out of the three I seen in the log that aren't already recorded on OP.

Also, I can't tell if it's just coincidence also, but I've yet to see an HV job ability since the update.

**Shiyo** · 2011-07-21 00:45

All of those cat 2 merits have always been worth it o_O

I agree with it seeming like every possible spell/ability/ws in the game being able to proc ~

**Kaisha** · 2011-07-21 06:54

I meant worthwhile in the sense they proc'd. Most of the time I been ignoring them since they're either an ass to land, or that tier1 proc more often. Dia3 isn't fully meritted either (had to drop some merits from it to get Blind2/Bio3 in for VW potential procs), and it's a bit of a waste to cast other then for blitz zerging due to shit duration.

Some more from tonight's run:

Spoiler: show

**Slycer** · 2011-07-26 12:18

Originally Posted by Shenrien

anyone try spamming same spell over and over again and seeing if you can get a proc like you can in dynamis

Have tried this many times in Voidwatch and it has never worked. It's almost definitely one specific spell (I remember several occasions where we would try several different spells multiple times until someone realized they hadn't casted one particular spell, and then that spell would proc on the first cast).

**Atoreis** · 2011-07-26 12:47

I staggered with Hyoton: San with previously casting :hi and :ichi with no effects so I doubt its like dynamis. Looks like SE want this event to be any answer for easy access, bigger group event in opposite to making dynamis and keeping abyssea lowman.

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