at that point, we're no longer compatible.but much longer down the road our partner may change their stance.
I'm not going to tell them what they want in life or try to change their minds. If children is what they truly want, then I would hope they can find someone to fulfill that need. I'm just never going to be the one to fulfill that need.
Both of my parents abandoned me and I don't blame them. I'd have done the same thing they did, but faster than they did (took them 2 years to dump me at grandma's house)Every child and every individual relies on the selflessness of others at some point in their life. For someone to turn around after reaping the benefits and say they don't ever want to be bothered by doing the same is pretty low.
Personally, I wouldn't be with someone I couldn't die for. Every partner I have had, I put through an emotional training day, and if they make it out of that then it is a go. If I can die for them then I can reevaluate my positions and potentially change my mind. If it means someone I care enough to give my life for is happy instead of realizing they are missing something in their path to fulfillment then it is on the table. I just don't see suddenly declaring countless years as a mistake because something changed down the road after a successful relationship.
I disagree with it because being idealistic to the point of selfish arrogance isn't a matter of integrity, but a matter of blind pride that I feel would likely leave me a bit emptier.
Fair enough.
Did you not complete that thought? You ended up taking advantage of the selflessness of your grandparents to even survive I take it. You may feel like you don't owe anything to anyone, but you wouldn't be alive if you didn't. No two year old takes care of itself and lives.
Why would you have abandoned yourself faster (immediately?) in their position too? I mean they cared to have you instead of an abortion, and if you did the same why would you immediately make your problems someone elses? Just to wash your hands of it?
I think spicy's just mad that he can't have your kids anymore
Not at all, really. Shit, I was with grandma from 2-14. After I moved out, she was still collecting child support instead of my uncle; using my dad's money to send me McDonalds/Subay dollars (could only spend it there) then say my dad never did shit for me, lol.Did you not complete that thought? You ended up taking advantage of the selflessness of your grandparents to even survive I take it. You may feel like you don't owe anything to anyone, but you wouldn't be alive if you didn't. No two year old takes care of itself and lives.
I'd personally go the abortion route, if it were my choice, but it's not my choice. Woman's body, woman's choice. I have no say in that.Why would you have abandoned yourself faster (immediately?) in their position too? I mean they cared to have you instead of an abortion, and if you did the same why would you immediately make your problems someone elses? Just to wash your hands of it?
She was complete trash. I don't even talk to her anymore. Haven't on the phone/in person since 2013. Blocked her on facebook about a year and half ago, lol
I would too.
I agree that no woman should be forced to give birth, but I also think that no man should be forced into fatherhood because half of that child is theirs. They shouldn't be forced to accept their half just like a woman doesn't have to. If the sex was consensual it is wrong for a woman to be able to fuck someone over with the system. If it is all about equality then it wouldn't be that way honestly.
Understandable.
I for one am willing to seed all of the earths future children in perpetuity.
And the world will be better for it. Cheers.
This seems contradictory to what you were saying earlier. He shouldn't be forced to accept having a child just because his partner decides they want one after he's been up front about it.
I commend everyone that is up front about not wanting kids. The reasoning for not wanting them doesn't matter. Children shouldn't be brought into this world unless BOTH parents are 100% about it. No child should have to grow up wondering "why doesn't mommy/daddy love me?"
From what I read, you were telling him he should choose his partner's wishes over his own if it meant saving a relationship. Maybe I'm reading it as more forced than it was meant to be, but that's how it sounded.
You miss the point. It's not you declaring anything or being at least the most selfish it's the person who suddenly changes what you agreed upon and leaves you with a no compromise ultimatum. Everything you say about the person who continues to say no applies double for the person who changed their mind and trying to force upon their partner one of the biggest financial and time burdens and as well as stress that exists
Ha beat ya. Haven't talked to my trash in like 20 years! Actually no one really knows where she went or what happened to her lol
ITT: People arguing with spicyryan about relationships.
Where does tattooing your ex girlfriends name on your chest fit into this