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  1. #2421
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    /sch or /blm doesnt matter to me as long as you find a decent whm, which is rare. 99% of pickup whms just suck ass no matter what SJ. hell I'd take a sch/rdm as mainhealer over a whm in pickup if I know he can pull it off and is good (which is not impossible mind you)

    90% of those 99% dont even know what a haste cycle is or Boost spell.
    Forgot the thread I'm in. Yeah, gimp whm mules might as well /BLM.

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    I'm as pro-/SCH on WHM as the next guy, but even I can agree that /BLM is useful. If it's not level 45+ though, gtfo.

    /BLM is for convenience/occasional ES enfeeble. D2s are always useful on that. And by god, I do expect /BLMs to know they have Stun. Yes, I say that knowing Instant Warp scrolls are 10CP; it's an amazing habit to have, but I do not expect everyone to do the same thing, a lot of players do prefer the lazy route back to town.

    /SCH is for making the most of the WHM job in itself, this shouldn't even be a debate really. I agree in VW the use of it can be rather limited since temps make everything easy. MP management? Who needs it when people spam temps to minimize damage taken? I could do that with no sub.

    Against anything serious in this game that cannot be made easy with temps I expect every serious WHM to /SCH, I don't give a fuck about convenience in this case, I care about efficiency and no sub has /SCH beaten on that. Alas, this is related to Voidwatch, so really, I don't care, as long as they aren't /RDM. /SCH or /BLM or play another job.

    And yes, /SCH is the sub to use for BLM (or /DRK for absorbs). BLM/RDM is worthless in Voidwatch, in fact it should only be used as a solo subjob at this point in the game, you do get more subbing SCH in general and only lose out on 5% Fast Cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn View Post
    Sure, Accession is useless. Let me know when your Vicar's/Cleric's lets you clear your own Sleep or Petrification.
    And let me know when you can waake/unpetrify yourself with your own cure/stona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn View Post
    Sure, Accession is useless. Let me know when your Vicar's/Cleric's lets you clear your own Sleep or Petrification.
    You expect everyone to go out of their way to get a Warp Scroll but don't expect people to use a Petrify Screen that is already in their inventory? (Granted people should be doing both anyway)

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    And let me know when you can waake/unpetrify yourself with your own cure/stona.
    The true fail is that people are petrified in the first place. Where's your petrify screens? What a bunch of losers http://www.dormibella.nl/forum/Smile...a/headbang.gifhttp://www.dormibella.nl/forum/Smile...a/headbang.gifhttp://www.dormibella.nl/forum/Smile...a/headbang.gifhttp://www.dormibella.nl/forum/Smile...a/headbang.gifhttp://www.dormibella.nl/forum/Smile...a/headbang.gif

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    Shit like that can never ever happen to good players.

    If you're wondering what I"m referring to:
    Imp readies Abrasive
    Nynja is no longer Amnesia (from previous one)
    Nynjs is amnesia (before I can even do anything)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Shit like that can never ever happen to good players.
    Yes a set of bad procs never happens to good players

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    Gimp/Confused/WTF Player Thread XXIII: Why are you guys being so rude and angry x_x

    Good players have their temps automatically refill

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    And let me know when you can waake/unpetrify yourself with your own cure/stona.
    Think he's referring to the melee if they get hit with Sleepga or Breakga or the like, since obviously you can't use a Vicar's or Cleric's whilst incapacitated by those spells. But anyway, this entire discussion hinges upon the ways and extent to which pickup players fucking suck at this game, so let's just be pleased with ourselves and move on.

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    I see that a real shit storm started about whm, when i was really only pissed about the gimp as shit blms with the rdm subs...

    Far as whm, I think I can sum it up I prefer whm/sch, but I -always- whm/blm d2 eseal para, its just convenient, and the arguement about whm/sch being able to helix, is THE EXACT reason im pissed about blm/rdm. helix is blms job to cast, not the fuckin whm with the wrong sub, because you're to gimp to have the right sub.

    Matter of fact, I've fucking subbed sch on blu, on cor, on god damn drk, cause all the gimp blms didnt have /sch. It really gets under my skin seeing in party chat "can someone sub sch". That should -never- need to be said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondue View Post
    I know people will get mad... but is the confused you wasting time on neo limbus and getting murzim hands...?

    Cause ive seen much, much worse bsts, its not even an uncommon thing, he'll he's even actually got +1 legs.

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    what else should I be wearing to tp on thf if not getting nomphka mitts?

    I didn't ask arch omega for the blessing of hand armor three times but he doth given them anyways

  15. #2435

    Raider's +2. My set's identical to yours aside from the Murzim.

    IIRC pretty much any haste gloves aside from Nomkahpa needs marches before they start beating Raider's.

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    for aby/salvage trash? I dont think so lol

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    You'd be surprised. Abyssea, Murzim probably wins, yeah. Salvage though, I think Raider's +2 wins. Not that matters, running 75 content more efficiently ftw.

    Not saying Murzim is bad, wish I had a pair myself, neo limbus is such a pain to enter though, heh.

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    AF3+2/Nefarious/Brutal/Suppa
    Thaumas/Thaumas/Rajas/Epona's
    Rancorous/Twilight/Thaumas/Thaumas

    According to spreadsheet (based on Mithra stats) for Dyna DC (trash mobs and such apply).

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    Gimp/Confused/WTF Player Thread XXIII: Why are you guys being so rude and angry x_x

    Thaumas ft over af2+2 ft?

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    I wonder how those newish haste gloves compare, the Haste/Str/Att ones with the dusk gloves icon.

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