2011-2012 NBA Thread: The Chris Paul and Dwight Howard sweepstakes

[Moss]

Thanks for setting it up. I'll send pm when I get home. I'm basically ok with most standard league scoring (9 category) but I think we should stay away from made fg/ft as categories if you were planning on it

I went with the default 8 categories of:

FG% FT% 3pm Points Reb Ast Blk Stl

[kisada]

No to's then?

[Moss]

correct

[Cail]

what style draft/when?

[Moss]

Probably snake for simplicity. I was thinking a weeknight like Dec. 14 (a Wednesday) around 7 pm est

[Moss]

Also, so we will be 9/10 as soon as Valisk and Demos accept their invites, so if anyone else is interested, PM me.

[kisada]

yeah i think snake would be best

[kisada]

btw did they ever mention when free agency begins? draft should definitely happen after, not before.

[Moss]

well the season starts Dec. 24ish. I want it to be close to the start of the season but not unreasonably so

[Cail]

i beleive i read the same day as training camp begins...dec 7th or 9th?

[Man0warr]

9th

[tyven]

I will be in your league if I can be guaranteed Nick Young and not have to start anyone aside from him.

[Moss]

tyven that would be unfair. the league would just be a battle for 2nd place

[Rhinox]

Nick young to bulls make it happen.

[Dimmauk]

Probably snake for simplicity. I was thinking a weeknight like Dec. 14 (a Wednesday) around 7 pm est

If it's a Wednesday, I can make that np.

What do y'all think about teams having to pay more luxury tax but still no hard cap? Will the Lakers, mavericks, Knicks, etc keep spending like crazy?

[Valisk]

If it's a Wednesday, I can make that np.

What do y'all think about teams having to pay more luxury tax but still no hard cap? Will the Lakers, mavericks, Knicks, etc keep spending like crazy?

There needs to be a hard cap for competition's sake. Due to the fact that some owners are more successful in avenues outside of basketball, allowing them to stream their non-basketball revenue into the team is unfair. There absolutely needs to be a hard cap.

[Man0warr]

For the next 2 years it's the same as now. After that, probably not on the Mavs at least.

Every year you are in luxury you get penalized more the following year under the new system. Say the Mavs are $16mil over the cap right now so they pay $16mil in luxury (dollar for dollar), in 2013 if they were still $16m over cap they'd have to pay $38.5million in luxury, and in 2014 it would be over $50million.

Dallas doesn't have the built in income from their market and TV deals like the Lakers and Knicks do. I'd bet even LA and NY try to stay near the cap with the new rules though.

Dallas is going to have a lot of money coming off the books next year. Their main goal should be resigning Chandler, then using the amnesty on Matrix or Haywood in 2012 when Kidd/Terry are off the books and try to get DWilliams and shift Dirk to Robin.

[Dimmauk]

That tax gets funneled to the smaller markets? So teams won't be able to farm players as easily then?

[kisada]

i disagree about there needing to be a hard cap for competition's sake. as long as you can't outright sign a player to a max deal when you're over the cap (or trade for one without balancing) then it's not like a team can just sign 5 superstars. teams are still limited in terms of the talent they can acquire.

btw, i really like the new luxury as the penalty for going too high is pretty costly. i'm rather sure the lakers will definitely stay out of the luxury tax (this past year jerry buss was adamant on trying to stay under). as for the rest, hard to say but i'm guessing they'll definitely be affected by the steeper costs.

[Man0warr]

That tax gets funneled to the smaller markets? So teams won't be able to farm players as easily then?

Yeah part of the luxury tax get's split up and given to other teams not paying luxury tax.