Random Facts Thread: Other

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-10-28 19:49

I tested Mujin necklace tonight and it's 5% Zanshin. Idk how that would fit into current SAM builds, but it would give 2% Hasso-zanshins (superior to DA) if the SAM was sitting at a Zanshin amount that's 1% shy of a 4% tier.

**Fival** · 2013-11-09 15:22

Some Quiahuiz Helm testing.

Used abyssea and upgraded conqueror to determine max crit damage of 1242(Nivlakian did the math for me), atmas for max crit rate and then changed to helm and saw a max of 1304 damage after about 5-10 minutes of meleeing colibri. So the "Increases Double Attack Damage" seems to be 5%.

Edit: The increased double attack damage can also proc on the first hit of a DA round.

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-11-11 06:35

Aphotic Kukri with DA gear and +170 STR should have a base damage of 109, which should give it a max crit damage of 343 before Crit Attack Bonus, or 380 with DNC's +11% damage.

Here is the raw data! I did filter out misses but did not filter out killshots. I went back through the log and verified that the four single-hit values above 380 were all killshots.

Spoiler: show

With Quiahuiz Leggings, I observed a maximum damage of 398 on both hands, which indicates +4.7% DA damage (AKA +5%, same as the helm).

Could be spurious, but I also had a 32% crit rate observed for the first swing of my double attacks but not the first swing of my normal attacks. I wonder if Fencer's crit rate boost only activates on the first swing of double attacks.

**EjinCaitsith** · 2013-11-12 10:36

Not that it's any surprise, but can confirm that Brioso Slippers increase song duration by 10%.

Observed duration with +130% song duration + slippers: 9min36sec.

240*2.4=576sec=9min36sec.

**Kaia** · 2013-11-13 12:18

Basic testing puts NIN neo-AF body at 7% dual wield, and the legs at 5%.

Legs: used 2 264-delay warp cudgels, naked except for the hakama. Took an educated guess that it was 5% DW, in which case adding exactly 5 stp would land at 5.0 tp per hit. Verified by equipping Rajas Ring and landing at exactly 5 for 20+ rounds. Double-checked by taking off rajas and equipping 4 stp, and this occasionally gave less than 5 TP on some swings (4.9/hit).

Body: used the same method as above, but had to equip 7 stp to reach 5/hit, putting the DW value at 7%.

Thanks to my test subject, Santi.

Also, the WHM legs regen duration enhancement seems to be the same as empy+2 hands: ~18 seconds but this would need more testing.

**Flippant** · 2013-11-13 14:09

Used ranged attack (Raider's Boomerang) in Ronfaure to determine that the crit damage on Pillager's Armlets is 2%. Criticals without hands was 286; with hands equipped was 291.

(43+24)*3.75*1.14 = 286.425
(43+24)*3.75*1.16 = 291.45

**EjinCaitsith** · 2013-11-13 20:01

Pummeler's Lorica increases Berserk duration by 10 seconds. No change in either attack or defense when it's on/off.

**Tachi** · 2013-11-13 21:47

Convoker's Doublet increases Blood Pact damage by 11%.

**Tachi** · 2013-11-14 11:58

Convoker's Pigaches increases Blood Pact damage by 5%.

**CDF** · 2013-11-15 08:41

Maybe someone can help me with this

Previous attempt to quantify effect of Academic's Loafers

TL;DR: Fast Cast appears to be +5 and haste might be 28/1024, subject to further verification

Fast Cast pieces used here are Swith Cape (+3), Rostrum Pumps (+3), Loquacious Earring (+2), Prolix Ring (+2), Orvail Pants (+5), and Anhur Robe (+10) and FC values are assumed to be correct.

Using Klimaform (base recast 180 s)

With Headlong Belt (Haste+3%):

Fast Cast +2: 172
Fast Cast +3: 172
Fast Cast +4: 171
Fast Cast +5: 171
Fast Cast +6: 169
Fast Cast +7: 169 (Orvail Pants; Loquacious Earring OR Prolix Ring)
Fast Cast +7: 169 (Swith Cape, Loquacious Earring AND Prolix Ring)
Fast Cast +8: 167
Fast Cast +10: 165
Fast Cast +18: 159 (this would seem to rule out 31/1024)
Fast Cast +20: 157
Fast Cast +22: 155

With Hagondes Sabots (Haste+3%):

Fast Cast +2: 172
Fast Cast +3: 172
Fast Cast +4: 170 (this would seem to rule out 30/1024 and 31/1024)
Fast Cast +5: 170
Fast Cast +7: 169 (Orvail Pants; Loquacious Earring OR Prolix Ring)
Fast Cast +7: 168 (Swith Cape, Loquacious Earring AND Prolix Ring) - WTF? See previous values for Headlong Belt
Fast Cast +8: 167
Fast Cast +10: 165
Fast Cast +18: 158
Fast Cast +20: 156 (this would also seem to rule out 31/1024)
Fast Cast +22: 155

With Academic's Loafers (Haste+3%) - no Arts:

Fast Cast +2: 173 (this seems to rule out 30/1024 based on Headlong Belt appearing to be 30/1024)
Fast Cast +3: 173
Fast Cast +4: 171
Fast Cast +5: 171
Fast Cast +7: 169
Fast Cast +8: 168 (this seems to rule out 29/1024)
Fast Cast +10: 166
Fast Cast +18: 159
Fast Cast +20: 157
Fast Cast +22: 156 (this seems to rule out 27/1024 and 28/1024??? However, 26/1024 is inconsistent with the Fast Cast +7 recast value as well as the testing I did previously for Academic's Loafers... see url at top)

As expected Fast Cast +n and Fast Cast +(n+1) give the same recast when n is even.

In terms of actual haste value, Hagondes Sabots > Headlong Belt > Academic's Loafers unless there is some confounding factor I'm not considering.

I did not expect different combinations of nominal Fast Cast +7 to yield different recast values with Hagondes Sabots. I'm now sure how this can be explained.

With Academic's Bracers (unknown Fast Cast; Haste+3%):

Academic's Bracers alone: 171
Prolix Ring (+2): 169
Swith Cape OR Rostrum Pumps (+3): 168
Prolix Ring + Loquacious Earring (+4): 168
Rostrum Pumps + Loquacious Earring (+5): 166
Anhur Robe + Rostrum Pumps + Loquacious Earring (+15): 157
Anhur Robe + Rostrum + Loquacious + Prolix (+17): 155

Comparing these values to reference values above, Academic's Bracers Fast Cast appears to be 5%. Haste value seems to be less than that of Headlong Belt (which I take to be 30/1024)

These are tenative haste values based on the above (I acknowledge some inconsistency between Academic's Bracers recast values and those for Headlong Belt, but I can't explain it, nor can I explain the inconsistency for Academic's Loafers)

Headlong Belt: 30/1024
Hagondes Sabots: 32/1024
Academic's Bracers: 28/1024
Academic's Loafers: 28/1024

**CDF** · 2013-11-15 08:46

I'm using Klimaform

**Flippant** · 2013-11-17 21:19

Originally Posted by Flippant

Used ranged attack (Raider's Boomerang) in Ronfaure to determine that the crit damage on Pillager's Armlets is 2%. Criticals without hands was 286; with hands equipped was 291.

(43+24)*3.75*1.14 = 286.425
(43+24)*3.75*1.16 = 291.45

298 with Pillager's Vest, 303 with both Vest and Armlets. Vest is 5%, and damage is floored before the critical hit damage multiplier (sorry if this is already known, just no mention on it on the BG wiki page).

**Tachi** · 2013-11-18 15:34

Convoker's Bracers is the same as Evoker's Bracers. No visible change at all, it's still 10% damage taken into mp with a low proc rate.

**Fival** · 2013-11-20 02:54

No info on bg-wiki for Pummler's Mufflers enhance retaliation yet, so i went ahead with this, with the help of my math buddy Nivlakian.

Pummler's Mufflers
Target: Hannequet (Black Mandragora, Abyssea Attohwa)
Job/SJ: WAR/DNC
STR: 275
Crit.Hit Rate: 100%
Max Crit: 1242
Total Crits: 193
Retaliation Count: 333
Retaliation Max: 1425
-Shows about a 15%(14.7%) increase in damage.

Ravager's Calligae +2
Target: Hannequet (Black Mandragora, Abyssea Attohwa)
Job/SJ: WAR/DNC
STR: 265
Crit.Hit Rate: 100%
Max Crit: 1332
Total Crits: 107
Retaliation Count: 146
Retaliation Max: 1593
-Shows about a 20%(19.59%) increase in damage.

Ravager's Calligae +2 + Pummler's Mufflers
Target: Hannequet (Black Mandragora, Abyssea Attohwa)
Job/SJ: WAR/DNC
STR: 270
Crit.Hit Rate: 100%
Max Crit: 1332
Total Crits: 85
Retaliation Count: 160
Retaliation Max: 1793
-Shows about a 35%(34.6%) increase in damage, indicating they stack, and add directly.

**EjinCaitsith** · 2013-11-20 03:54

Pummeler's Mask adds 10 seconds to Aggressor duration. Only needs to be on for activation.

**Prothescar** · 2013-11-20 21:02

Totemic body = +20% Reward potency

**Flippant** · 2013-11-21 03:00

Originally Posted by Flippant

Used ranged attack (Raider's Boomerang) in Ronfaure to determine that the crit damage on Pillager's Armlets is 2%. Criticals without hands was 286; with hands equipped was 291.

(43+24)*3.75*1.14 = 286.425
(43+24)*3.75*1.16 = 291.45

293 with Pillager's Culottes, so 3% crit damage.

**Kaia** · 2013-11-21 17:52

I put this in the wrong mathy thread by accident.

COR neo-AF boots give a boost identical to Corsair's Tricorne, calculated as (2(gun damage + bullet damage + tricorne bonus[+5] + Laksamana's Bottes[+5])), before MAB/staff/weather bonuses are applied.

**Flippant** · 2013-11-24 00:41

Originally Posted by Flippant

293 with Pillager's Culottes, so 3% crit damage.

I also wanted to add to this so that someone could put it on wiki, but Culottes are supposed to say Haste+6%, not Enmity.

**Ophannus** · 2013-11-24 21:41

Vishap Armet doesn't lower the threshold for Healing Breath activation, as expected. Tested at 51%, no proc, at 49% it proc'd as with Drachen Armet/+1. I guess that makes sense, if it proc'd at say 75% then almost every time you cast a spell your Wyvern would Healing Breath you or someone. Might enhance Spirit Link somehow but a bitch to test. At any rate, makes for a good head upgrade when solo since swapping to a 25DEF headpiece when readying healing breath is dangerous in Adoulin; Vishap Armet sports 82DEF 19VIT and 15EVA so pretty decent when solo for a HB macro trigger piece.

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