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  1. #361
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    The following attributes of avatars will now increase further based on the item level of the equipped throwing weapon.

    STR / DEX / VIT / AGI / INT / MND / CHR / Accuracy / Attack / Ranged Attack
    SMN got a very nice boost from the last update, all Sachets have been enhanced.
    Convocaller (Lv 106) = HP+12, All stats +54 (161 INT)
    Dashavatara Sachet (Lv 113) = HP+27, All stats +80 (187 INT)
    Eminent Sachet (Lv 115) = HP+31, All stats +88 (195 INT)
    Seraphicaller (Lv 119) = HP+39, All stats +102 (209 INT)
    Nirvana + Seraphicaller (Lv 121) = HP+44, All stats +112 (219 INT)

  2. #362
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    Not sure if known, but Mikinaak Gauntlets have 5% haste, not the listed 4%. 51/256 to be specific. It probably has the right value in at least one other language, but I didn't check.

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    It's not correct in any language, but SE tossed some random/undocumented Haste +/- onto gear that was released that update (I think Orvail Pants +1 were another example?)

  4. #364
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    orvail +1s are fine, but the NQs have a small, erroneous amount of slow on them

    Also, 109 and 119 AF haste values seem strange. Testing ongoing, but they definitely seem to give different values despite being displayed as the same amount on some pieces.


    edit:

    4% haste = 0.04 * 1024 = 40

    reforged AF doesn't seem to follow this model. ex.:

    BST 109 AF:

    head: 71 (expected 71, 7% in description)
    body: 37 (expected 40, 4% in description)
    hands: 43 (expected 40, 4% in description)
    legs: 57 (expected 61, 6% in description)
    feet: 37 (expected 40, 4% in description)

    There's a pattern. Those that are lower than expected are the ones where the HQ version has a haste value that coincides with the one in the decription. ex.:

    BLU AF body:
    NQ: 37
    HQ: 44


    Doesn't look like an upgrade for haste at face value, but it is. Jubbah in particular goes 3.61328125% -> 4.296875% Haste.

    So far it seems that if 109 and 119 have same haste in description, then 109 likely has lower haste than you'd expect and 119 likely has higher than you'd expect. If 109 and 119 have different values in description, then it's possible that they are as expected, although gloves were higher than I anticipated, so not enough to say about a pattern.

  5. #365
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    Ejekamal feet are mislabeled as well. They're 40/1024 but they're labeled as 5%.

  6. #366
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    Tested Bravura's Evasion down with Nivlakian and his wide assortment of accuracy gear on lizards in morimar, confirmed -30 evasion.

    Pre-proc: 53 acc = high evasion, 54 acc = no message
    Post-proc: 23 acc = high evasion, 24 acc = no message

  7. #367
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    So not sure if this was known or not haven't seen it anywhere but seems you still get aftermath even if you the ws fails due to out of range. Might be useful for idk the lae blms that want the aftermath but not the getting hit by AoE?

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    At one point cure potency and cure received only stacked to the 50% cure potency cap, that could be whats happening here. If their is in fact a gear cap, they may not have separated the received gear and the enhances gear like they did for cure potency, so that cap is extremely easy to get to and so much is wasted and not worth carrying if thats the case.

    The update where cure was separated to what it is now is here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...Version-Update

  9. #369
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    Shabti curiass + repisal = none for you.

    A very minor little test. But one with a really annoying result.

    The Enhancing magic duration + effect on Shabti cuirass(only nq tested atm) does NOT work on reprisal. -.-; Which kinda kills the main reason I even got one. It Does seem to work on other enhancing spells, though.

    Submitted a bug report on the OF for them to ignore.

  10. #370
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    Just spammed a lot of books to level Divine Magic skill. a few things I noticed:
    * My last 0.5 skillup got me to 302 skill (404 cap)
    * My last 0.4 skillup was just before 367 (417 cap - switched to WHM)
    * After 387 skill, I was still getting 0.3 skillups (still on WHM, so 417 cap)

    Looks like being >100 skill levels from cap probably unlocks 0.5s and >50 unlocks 0.4s.

  11. #371
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    Well I do know that when you're 10 skill levels away from that jobs cap, you'll only get .1's. So always use books on a job with the highest skill.

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    Naked Elvaan RUN with 95 Dex has 122 Accuracy. Does this mean Accuracy Bonus trait is around +40 Acc?

    EDIT: Forgot I have +16 h2h skill from merits.

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    Looks like 35 Accuracy, which means you get Accuracy Bonus III trait.

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    SMN Relic Hands and Feet appear to give a percentage based boost to accuracy or attack, respectively, effectively on the order of 1.5%.

    Carby: 428 Acc, 407 Atk, 371 Eva, 396 Def
    With Hands: 435 Acc, 407 Atk (Acc+7)
    With Feet: 428 Acc, 414 Atk (Atk+7)

    Fenrir: 456 Acc, 657 Atk, 403 Eva, 399 Def
    With Hands: 463 Acc, 657 Atk (Acc+7)
    With Feet: 456 Acc, 666 Atk (Atk+9)

    This math doesn't work out in terms of it being purely a percentage based boost. It's got to be something like a base and a multiplier.


    Anyway, other random level 95 avatar stats (no sachets):
    Air Spirit - 427 Acc, 396 Atk, 367 Eva, 385 Def
    Diabolos - 456 Acc, 507 Atk, 403 Eva, 517 Def
    Celestial Avatars - 456 Acc, 507 Atk, 403 Eva, 399 Def
    Alexander - 426 Acc, 464 Atk, 406 Eva, 431 Def



    Avatar's Favor (Titan):
    Attack- 507 -> 404 Attack (-20%)
    Accuracy- No Change
    Evasion - No Change
    Defense - 399 -> 338 (-15%)
    Reconfirmed no defense wind-up despite his favor increasing defense.




    Level 99 Celestial with capped skill: 478 Acc, 530 Atk, 424 Eva, 420 Def
    Adding skill - No effect
    Level 119 Celestial with capped skill: 792 Acc, 836 Atk, 668 Eva, 664 Def

    All the measurements I've taken since the original set have been static, so perhaps I just messed those up or Fenfen is special.
    Convoker's Pigaches = +20 Evasion (to both iLevel and not, so it's static)
    Summoner's Pigaches +2 = +10 Attack (to both iLevel and not, so it seems to be static)
    Summoner's Bracers +2 = +12 Accuracy
    Mujin Obi = +10 Attack
    Sacrifice Torque = +3 Attack
    Karura hachigane = +10 Attack / +10 Defense (for Garuda)
    Spurrina Gages = +12 Attack
    Auspex Gages = +9 Attack


    Edit: It appears Fenfen is special and has a ~+30% Attack modifier. I can push him up to 1142 Attack with Seraphicaller.

    At 31% Waning Crescent, Fenfen's Ecliptic Howl gave 17 Evasion and 9 Accuracy. It did not decay.

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    Other Avatar gear that I don't have:
    * Punga's Slops
    * Astral Signa
    * Ebon/Ebur/Furia Galoshes
    * Koschei Crackows
    * Marduk Crackows +1

  16. #376
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    Using Spirit Link to give my Wyvern a 'parameter boost' gave these results:

    Level 0 no "Parameter Boost"
    No gear besides Upukirex:
    Primary Acc: 819
    Primary Attack: 779

    Level 5 "Parameter Boost"
    Primary Acc: 849
    Primary Attack: 961


    So Attack+182, Accuracy+30. Not bad.


    As an aside, Spirit Surge confirmed to be +50 accuracy and hot damn my Wyvern has a crapload of Def/Evasion(like 200 more than me)

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    Should check and see if those Evoker's Boots have any effect on avatar stats lol.

  18. #378
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    Garuda's Favor cap at evasion +21 with 512 skill.

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    Cait Sith's Favor cap at MDB +15 with 512 skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fival View Post
    No info on bg-wiki for Pummler's Mufflers enhance retaliation yet, so i went ahead with this, with the help of my math buddy Nivlakian.

    Pummler's Mufflers
    Target: Hannequet (Black Mandragora, Abyssea Attohwa)
    Job/SJ: WAR/DNC
    STR: 275
    Crit.Hit Rate: 100%
    Max Crit: 1242
    Total Crits: 193
    Retaliation Count: 333
    Retaliation Max: 1425
    -Shows about a 15%(14.7%) increase in damage.

    Ravager's Calligae +2
    Target: Hannequet (Black Mandragora, Abyssea Attohwa)
    Job/SJ: WAR/DNC
    STR: 265
    Crit.Hit Rate: 100%
    Max Crit: 1332
    Total Crits: 107
    Retaliation Count: 146
    Retaliation Max: 1593
    -Shows about a 20%(19.59%) increase in damage.

    Ravager's Calligae +2 + Pummler's Mufflers
    Target: Hannequet (Black Mandragora, Abyssea Attohwa)
    Job/SJ: WAR/DNC
    STR: 270
    Crit.Hit Rate: 100%
    Max Crit: 1332
    Total Crits: 85
    Retaliation Count: 160
    Retaliation Max: 1793
    -Shows about a 35%(34.6%) increase in damage, indicating they stack, and add directly.
    Adding on to this testing awhile back to confirm the new great axe is +20%, and not +20 as it reads.

    Qalgwer
    Target: Hannequet (Black Mandragora, Abyssea Attohwa)
    Job/SJ: WAR/DNC
    STR: 272
    Crit.Hit Rate: 100%
    Max Crit: 1346
    Total Crits: 91
    Retaliation Count: 19
    Retaliation Max: 1610
    -Shows about a 20%(19.6%) increase in damage.

    Ravager's Calligae +2 + Pummler's Mufflers +1 + Qalgwer
    Target: Hannequet (Black Mandragora, Abyssea Attohwa)
    Job/SJ: WAR/DNC
    STR: 261
    Crit.Hit Rate: 100%
    Max Crit: 1443
    Total Crits: 56
    Retaliation Count: 17
    Retaliation Max: 2231
    -Shows about a 55%(54.6%) increase in damage, indicating they all stack like indicated in prior testing of hands and feet, and there seems to be no cap that is obtainable anyway.

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