FFXIII-2: Plot Discussion

**vadre** · 2012-02-11 07:57

Originally Posted by Appie

Where's this "leaked" Versus XIII story? I see Gokulo's post, but it provides no link and google isn't really helping me. Or is this about something else than that fan-fic?

Posted in the versus thread a few weeks back, no idea how authentic it is but it seemed pretty extensively planned and thought out. It's very detailed and specific so I expect as we get more info this year it'll be disproved or not very quickly.

**Burningthought** · 2012-02-11 16:36

Originally Posted by Appie

Where's this "leaked" Versus XIII story? I see Gokulo's post, but it provides no link and google isn't really helping me. Or is this about something else than that fan-fic?

He said it was just a well developed fan-fic.

**Appie** · 2012-02-11 18:41

I read it in the Versus topic, fun stuff.

**Crab_Cake** · 2012-02-12 02:16

Originally Posted by Gokulo

Edit:
Nvm it, reading more behind that stuff it is indeed just fan-fic stuff.

Is it though? Did the person who posted it confirmed it or what? (Edit question answered in post below)

If SE wants the FNC to be crazy, end Versus XIII that way (also connect it with FFXIII).

Here's how I'd connect it (again major spoilers for Versus XIII if true):

Spoiler: show

**Flying Wonkey** · 2012-02-12 02:19

Huh my little wordpress site stats are showing someone posted my blog here.

Well anyways folks, I wouldn't take the Versus 13 information seriously. A friend of mine sent me all the information you see there (The top half of the blog post) that he received on an IRC chat channel... So I can't say how authentic it is myself. I later added the second half of the blog post after googling some key words from everything and finding some asshole from GameFAQs that had similar information and a totally ridiculous livejournal fan fiction site.

I don't think you guy would need to worry about all that information. Unless Nomura comes out in new interview in a magazine and decides to detail some bits about the group or something.

Originally Posted by Burningthought

Edit: I'm too lazy to type it up, but if you look at Datalog > Histories and Myth > Death of a Goddess it shows some pretty interesting stuff about Lightning. I don't think she's protecting anything now. I also don't know how she was put into a Crystal Sleep if Etro's is truely dead.

Final Fantasy XIII-2‘s Lead Writer (Daisuke Watanabe) was recently interviewed about this in a strategy guide. Unfortunately this forum won't let me post a URL so just google the guy's name with 'strategy guide' or something. Here is what was mentioned in the interview.

The throne of Etro that appears in The Void Beyond is empty for most of the game. This symbolizes the ever diminishing power of Etro.

However, in the ending, Lightning sits on the throne. This symbolizes that the world’s very existence relies on her to embody the divine will. As Lighting wants to maintain hope, she enters the crystal stasis in order to protect the will of her sacrificed sister, Serah. We are planning a DLC release to reveal the background of this.

Besides all that cool crib.

Oh and of course have any questions, shoot.

**Burningthought** · 2012-02-12 04:48

Originally Posted by Flying Wonkey

Huh my little wordpress site stats are showing someone posted my blog here.

Well anyways folks, I wouldn't take the Versus 13 information seriously. A friend of mine sent me all the information you see there (The top half of the blog post) that he received on an IRC chat channel... So I can't say how authentic it is myself. I later added the second half of the blog post after googling some key words from everything and finding some asshole from GameFAQs that had similar information and a totally ridiculous livejournal fan fiction site.

I don't think you guy would need to worry about all that information. Unless Nomura comes out in new interview in a magazine and decides to detail some bits about the group or something.

Final Fantasy XIII-2‘s Lead Writer (Daisuke Watanabe) was recently interviewed about this in a strategy guide. Unfortunately this forum won't let me post a URL so just google the guy's name with 'strategy guide' or something. Here is what was mentioned in the interview.

Besides all that cool crib.

Oh and of course have any questions, shoot.

Yeah where do you find translated interviews like that, I search around some FF fansites, but they're mostly shit.

**vadre** · 2012-02-12 04:50

Originally Posted by Flying Wonkey

Huh my little wordpress site stats are showing someone posted my blog here.

Well anyways folks, I wouldn't take the Versus 13 information seriously. A friend of mine sent me all the information you see there (The top half of the blog post) that he received on an IRC chat channel... So I can't say how authentic it is myself. I later added the second half of the blog post after googling some key words from everything and finding some asshole from GameFAQs that had similar information and a totally ridiculous livejournal fan fiction site.

I don't think you guy would need to worry about all that information. Unless Nomura comes out in new interview in a magazine and decides to detail some bits about the group or something.

Final Fantasy XIII-2‘s Lead Writer (Daisuke Watanabe) was recently interviewed about this in a strategy guide. Unfortunately this forum won't let me post a URL so just google the guy's name with 'strategy guide' or something. Here is what was mentioned in the interview.

Besides all that cool crib.

Oh and of course have any questions, shoot.

Welcome! It was a very interesting read none-the-less.

**Appie** · 2012-02-12 08:08

Originally Posted by Burningthought

Yeah where do you find translated interviews like that, I search around some FF fansites, but they're mostly shit.

You mean the quote from the interview with Watanabe? I'm guessing you don't mean that since it's been quoted here before (think I even did it) and the whole interview is in the collector's edition of the english strategy guide.

**Burningthought** · 2012-02-12 12:18

Originally Posted by Appie

You mean the quote from the interview with Watanabe? I'm guessing you don't mean that since it's been quoted here before (think I even did it) and the whole interview is in the collector's edition of the english strategy guide.

Whoops I thought he was talking about the ultimania, nevermind lol.

**shukudai** · 2012-02-12 15:50

Spoiler: show

**Spira** · 2012-02-12 18:02

I think it's got to do with how life on the land is a lot more harsh than in cocoon. In the past they basically lived in a climate controlled safe place where everything was provided for by the fal'cie. Since they are no longer dependent on the fal'cie for most things, I think the intention is to go back to a safe life on new cocoon, away from the influence of any fal'cie at all this time.

**Ratatapa** · 2012-02-12 20:10

I missed some pages but remember the fragment of Serah's message in New Bhodum 700AF. She seems to be drifting instead of being dead

**Burningthought** · 2012-02-12 20:14

She died before valhalla and the real world clashed together though. I think she is dead dead.

**Ratatapa** · 2012-02-12 20:21

I know this will sound stupid but anyway.

When they beat Caius and Noel asked Serah if she was ok, i'm sure she was already in pain (or dying) and forced herself to go back to see the new Cocoon before dying for real. Since imo she was half dead in Valhalla where no life or no death, i'm sure she will come back in some form or another

**Burningthought** · 2012-02-12 20:35

Originally Posted by Ratatapa

I know this will sound stupid but anyway.

When they beat Caius and Noel asked Serah if she was ok, i'm sure she was already in pain (or dying) and forced herself to go back to see the new Cocoon before dying for real. Since imo she was half dead in Valhalla where no life or no death, i'm sure she will come back in some form or another

I'm not saying there isn't an afterlife in xiiis universe. Personally I think the original Serah is gone. I'm sure there is some past her that will return or something.

**Celeras** · 2012-02-12 22:15

Caius "died" in Valhalla just like Noel and Serah "died" in the Void Beyond. Same with Lightning. Both can be easily woken up from their dream the same way, I would think. Don't know if that's the route they'll go though.

**Nevex** · 2012-02-13 04:45

Just watched the Mog flan plan paradox ending and I must say that it's the most awesome thing I have seen in a FF game in years.
Mainly because the last time we got such a cute and hilarious scene was in FFIX so it was kinda unexpected.

**miokomioko** · 2012-02-13 05:37

Not reading this thread whatsoever because I'm only now on Ch.4, but something confused me (lol). I may have just missed it or something...

What was actually changed about the timeline in Yaschas Massif 01X? What the hell was causing the eclipse and why wasn't it there in 01X? Additionally, why the hell is Cocoon so high up from the horizon...

**shukudai** · 2012-02-13 06:57

Originally Posted by Spira

I think it's got to do with how life on the land is a lot more harsh than in cocoon. In the past they basically lived in a climate controlled safe place where everything was provided for by the fal'cie. Since they are no longer dependent on the fal'cie for most things, I think the intention is to go back to a safe life on new cocoon, away from the influence of any fal'cie at all this time.

Meh. I don't think that fits, I mean it's got be faster, easier, safer to build some big walls that the monsters can't get past than... well to levitate a huge sphere so millions of people can live on it. They'd still need to grow food and such, which is easier on the ground, animals for meat, etc. I'd say also, once they learned "Oh Hey, they're gonna try and crash new cocoon until one and THINGS WILL GO BOOM" someone might've said "Hey, we could just not build it... Or even better, if we REALLY need a sphere, we could make some domes"

**Appie** · 2012-02-13 09:06

The aftermath of the real Cocoon falling was Noel's future, where nothing could grow and nothing would live except carnivores, which would obviously die in the end too. So Hope made a new Cocoon as a safe place where the people could survive. Living on Pulse wasn't an option for survival after impact. And yes, I am aware Cocoon drops quite "gently" to the ground in the last cutscene. Could be because they were prepared for the fall unlike in Noel's timeline, could be because the sands of ... (forgot what they callled it, Oerba was loaded with it iirc), fucks up the land after impact, meaning the gentle fall still sucks.

Originally Posted by Burningthought

She died before valhalla and the real world clashed together though. I think she is dead dead.

Well technically people who die in the real world, their soul goes to Valhalla, which is probably the "drifting" she's doing atm?

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