General WWE Discussion: Roman Weeps, Taker Retires, MNK/SAM/RDM LFP

**Mjd** · 2012-05-11 11:02

Cena loses before HHH match
HHH loses match
Brock says "I'm done" and leaves
HHH is in the middle of the ring defeated
Starts to get up, crowd cheers him
"YOU GOT NO CHANCE" hits the speakers
Vinny Mac comes out (coming down ramp all swag like)
Grabs a mic
"You screwed up for the last time son, YOU'RE FIRED. Laurinaitis is the new COO"
John Laurinaitis comes out with Eve
"People power!" raises his first, Eve does the same
Vince looks on at the crowd with a evil grin
HHH looking mad as hell in the ring, still to weak to get up
End of PPV

**Kalmado** · 2012-05-11 11:23

I think I'm gonna hit the interwebz this weekend and find some wwe videos from the early 00s......

**Melena** · 2012-05-11 16:24

Some of my favorite matches during that era were the TLC tag team title matches with E&C, Hardyz, & Dudleys. If you can find the PPV where Eddie beats Brock for the title, that was an awesome feel good moment. I still love Brock's promo on Eddie with the mariachi band. Probably his best promo ever. Also any Brock/Undertaker matches, especially HiaC as well as Foley/HHH HiaC

Here, shitty gif is shitty but yea http://ringpsychology.files.wordpres...ance.gif?w=450

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1257897_o.gif

**Kalmado** · 2012-05-11 16:26

For kicks I've tried watching Impact Wrestling a few times. I was very sad to see "Bully Ray" and Jeff Hardy looking more strung out than ever.

**Melena** · 2012-05-11 16:29

Hardy has gotten really fucked up. He was supposed to do a title match with sting a few months ago and he came out so fucked up they just had sting do a quick roll up for the win and that ended the ppv. You could hear the crowd yelling this is bullshit and sting mouthing out that it is bullshit and he's sorry.

**Kalmado** · 2012-05-11 16:34

I'm going to look for a Sting video. I don't know much about him. I've always wondered why he didn't go to the WWE.

**Melena** · 2012-05-11 16:36

He was born again, so he didn't really want anything to do with the attitude era. He almost signed this past year but TNA got him to take a 1 year deal. I could see him signing and get inducted into the hall of fame and doing 1-2 more matches. He's slowed down over the years but he can still go with the right person.

**Anoat** · 2012-05-12 03:57

I understand why they aren't allowed to do chairshots to the head anymore with all the concussion issues and all, but man, these were the days when you knew the shit was ON.

**arus2001** · 2012-05-12 11:19

I always assumed those were prop chairs, so while they'd still get the metal clank, they'd be more prone to bend and certainly not do the damage you'd expect. Honestly, I'd peg more concussions on general fall whiplash since it's not uncommon to see unclean landings, especially when going from the ring to the floor.

**Forewarned** · 2012-05-12 16:00

Remember watching the Mankind vs Rock I Quit Match (chairshots in video package) from '99 Rumble live and it was hard to watch. Fake is fake etc, but Mick sold some of those shots like a real champ. At the end I was just happy to "hear" him quit...

**arus2001** · 2012-05-12 16:19

Wouldn't be surprised if he wore that mask in part to help absorb some hits. But yeah, for some shots in that video, angle is important. What some think was a head shot was more the chair making initial impact on the back of shoulders. Even more recently, when Cena had his arm held out by Tensai for Johnny to whack him, you can tell the chair hit the steps instead of his arm. How coordinated the back is with their cameras to try and fool viewers like that, I dunno. I know it is funny when a move doesn't quite land right and the announcers miscall the damage. Like last Raw, Sheamus did his kick to Orton and they called it as Randy getting hit in the jaw, when not only was the kick shallowed by the distance Sheamus moved to land it, but it was more like in his chest.

...perhaps this is a problem in being an adult watching this stuff. x.x

In the end, I'm not really keen on the hardcore aspect of wrestling. Actual wrestling is pretty scarce these days, more about haymaker blows and top rope theatrics. I can understand why the technical game may not be perceived as interesting, but I'm also of the mind fans could come to appreciate it more if it was actually emphasized better. It's also probably a hell of a lot safer for talent in the long term, even if certain holds may really hurt in the moment.

**Lucavi** · 2012-05-13 17:20

Originally Posted by arus2001

Wouldn't be surprised if he wore that mask in part to help absorb some hits. But yeah, for some shots in that video, angle is important. What some think was a head shot was more the chair making initial impact on the back of shoulders. Even more recently, when Cena had his arm held out by Tensai for Johnny to whack him, you can tell the chair hit the steps instead of his arm. How coordinated the back is with their cameras to try and fool viewers like that, I dunno. I know it is funny when a move doesn't quite land right and the announcers miscall the damage. Like last Raw, Sheamus did his kick to Orton and they called it as Randy getting hit in the jaw, when not only was the kick shallowed by the distance Sheamus moved to land it, but it was more like in his chest.

...perhaps this is a problem in being an adult watching this stuff. x.x

In the end, I'm not really keen on the hardcore aspect of wrestling. Actual wrestling is pretty scarce these days, more about haymaker blows and top rope theatrics. I can understand why the technical game may not be perceived as interesting, but I'm also of the mind fans could come to appreciate it more if it was actually emphasized better. It's also probably a hell of a lot safer for talent in the long term, even if certain holds may really hurt in the moment.

That's a lot of it, but you're also correct about angles and certain moves being "mis-sold". I'm always into reversals; I love watching big guys like Mark Henry reverse people's supers, and I enjoy watching some of the agile guys do all the crazy flips off the ropes and hand-stands to reverse people's moves.

**Ziero** · 2012-05-14 03:45

That's one of the biggest reasons I love watching Punk and Bryan's wrestle, they're not about the big hits and instead they actually do a lot of technical moves and counters and counter-counters. I've always liked the more technical guys but sadly Vince doesn't and prefers to have those oversized giants who do two moves and spend the rest of the match punching each other.

**arus2001** · 2012-05-14 22:15

Cena getting his Jim Carey on tonight...

***Makwa*** · 2012-05-14 22:51

Last two RAWs sucked. WAY too many flashbacks to shit that JUST HAPPENED. Needed more actual wrestling.
And calling it now, Big Show helps Johnny beat Cena, to get his job back. Or Lesnar.

And that Rock vs Mankind match, I remember hearing he got a concussion? I think. I remember he hit him way more than he was supposed to. The chairs are lighter-built than your normal folding chair, but still pack impact and hurt like hell, I'd imagine. Just look at Taker's back from 'Mania.

**Tyrath** · 2012-05-15 00:06

Lesnar isn't gonna be touching Cena again. He is busy with HHH.

**arus2001** · 2012-05-15 01:22

Well, I wouldn't be surprised to see Lesnar barge in on the Cena/JL match. Lord knows it needs SOMETHING to not to be totally lop-sided. With the stipulations that came up in mind, with Brock having "quit" he technically can't get fired. Though, I can also see Show coming in for the assist unless this is really meant for him to be his way to retirement.

**Mjd** · 2012-05-15 09:00

Big Show left crying in the ring...King giving a really nice speech about Show...Cole in silence..."LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE WELCOME, THE ONLY LIVING BREATHING, ROMPING STOMPING FUNKASAURCERS IN CAPTIVITY, BRODUS CLAY”

Fucking AJ...I like my women that crazy.

Edit: Fucking Randy is the best wrestler at sliding out of a ring. All that oil.

**Melena** · 2012-05-15 11:27

Originally Posted by Makwa

Last two RAWs sucked. WAY too many flashbacks to shit that JUST HAPPENED. Needed more actual wrestling.
And calling it now, Big Show helps Johnny beat Cena, to get his job back. Or Lesnar.

And that Rock vs Mankind match, I remember hearing he got a concussion? I think. I remember he hit him way more than he was supposed to. The chairs are lighter-built than your normal folding chair, but still pack impact and hurt like hell, I'd imagine. Just look at Taker's back from 'Mania.

Ironically Foley has been told by doctors to spend less time in front of a computer now due to his previous concussions.

**Kalmado** · 2012-05-15 12:23

Seconding the last few Raws being crappy. I was surprised to see HHH giving Cena such props. That womens match was terrible. Crowd was silent. Whenever I see a "diva match" I check other channels, bathroom, food, etc etc.

Brodus vs. Dolph/Swagger again? zzzzz

Another meaningless tag match (cm/santino vs cody/dbry). zzzz

I was hoping Show woulda given Johnny a wmd, but instead he cried. For shame.

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