General WWE Discussion: Roman Weeps, Taker Retires, MNK/SAM/RDM LFP

**Hex** · 2012-09-10 17:43

I was more proving the point that you said he has never been entertaining which isn't true. Yes WWE killed Chavo on so many levels but when he was in WCW, he had a lot of good moments and was someone people got behind many times. Chavo was never a world champion type talent but he has always been a solid wrestler who knew how to work with anything he was given with. Honestly, who from WCW really survived the hand of Vince McMahon? I'm talking about talent who came over after the buy out, not talent who jumped ship.

**arus2001** · 2012-09-10 18:20

Felt bad when I learned one of DB's eyes is basically fucked from shit he's done over the years. He may not be new to the biz, but he's been one of the few new WWE additions that I've taken to over the past few years.

**Melena** · 2012-09-10 18:48

Originally Posted by Hex

I was more proving the point that you said he has never been entertaining which isn't true. Yes WWE killed Chavo on so many levels but when he was in WCW, he had a lot of good moments and was someone people got behind many times. Chavo was never a world champion type talent but he has always been a solid wrestler who knew how to work with anything he was given with. Honestly, who from WCW really survived the hand of Vince McMahon? I'm talking about talent who came over after the buy out, not talent who jumped ship.

Off the top of my head

Booker T
Shane Helms
Ric Flair (i count him as he only had a small wwf run in the late 80's to parlay that into a bigger contract withWCW)
DDP till he retired, had a decent run
Hugh Morris still works as a trainer/agent
Stacy Keibler
Torrie Wilson
Kidman was alright in WWF, just cruiserweight division got killed
Lance Storm (WWF really dropped the ball with him. Storm in his prime was a great wrestler. Punk and Bryan would have awesome matches with him)

Also, love this skit with Los Guerros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFD_kX8-LjA

**Trichocyst** · 2012-09-10 19:09

DDP's run in WWF was awful. That character was a joke and DDP was a guy that people loved to cheer.

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-09-10 19:11

This Bret bit is awkward.

**Hex** · 2012-09-10 19:31

Booker T took a lot of hits before making it over in the WWE. He even had HHH do everything to bury him leading up to and in their Wrestlemania match. Helms got over as a cartoon character for kids. It didn't really have a lot to do with his talent. Flair can't be counted because of his early 90's run where he left to go back to WCW. He and Vince remained friends and Flair left on very good terms. They both just agreed that Flair was a better fit over there. Even saving Vince some cash by asking to be let out of his contract.

DDP was brought in as a stalker and was killed by The Undertaker first chance they got. I do mean killed, DDP had 0 offense against Taker in their confrontation. As for the Females, if they looked good, Vince didn't care. Not like he pays a lot of attention to that part of the company.

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-09-10 19:35

Isn't it like a policy in WWE that you get double d implants and fuck Vince McMahon for the females?

**Yugl** · 2012-09-10 19:36

You know, I can see Kick > DQ > Run in to cash suitcase > luls at that event.

**NynJa** · 2012-09-10 19:37

Why would Vince bury the two hottest divas he had in his company at that time?

It is known that Vince likes to not push people that he didnt discover/create. I remember some interview with sting about why he didnt go to WWE when WCW was bought out, and that was the reason.

shit hasnt started in canada yet, despite the fact its in montreal, they air it at 9.

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-09-10 20:01

The fuck is all this twitter shit? Would've been awesome to see CM Punk go against that big ass Brodus dude.

EDIT: Is this Ryback nigga ever gonna matter?

**arus2001** · 2012-09-10 21:20

Yikes, gonna suck if Lawler croaks after having a match tonight.

**Tyrath** · 2012-09-10 21:33

This is creepy man. Cole's just sitting there looking miserable and not talking. Hope Lawler pulls through.

**Insanecyclone** · 2012-09-10 21:34

I don't follow wrestling anymore, but what happen with lawyer? Seeing it pop up on twitter all of a sudden.

**Tyrath** · 2012-09-10 21:38

He collapsed mid show. Cole said they were administrating CPR then went silent. The show is continuing right now without any commentary at all and its creepy as hell. We don't know whats happened yet.

UPdate: Taken to a hospital. Breathing on his own but being provided with oxygen. Further updates to come.

**Yugl** · 2012-09-10 21:38

Off screen medical problem it seems (He passed out mid-commentary). Also, did they just say no more commentary for the night?

**Insanecyclone** · 2012-09-10 21:39

Damn. Still have respect for that guy back when I watched it.

Hope he pulls though alright.

found this

**Yugl** · 2012-09-10 22:01

You can really hear the hate for Cena when the room is silent. Weird as shit episode.

**Clemz** · 2012-09-10 22:22

I'm not generally a fan of Cole, as I think the heel announcer schtick is beyond dumb, but you can genuinely hear the distress in his voice as he's giving those updates. Not having commentary was super surreal, made it so odd, but was a nice show of respect for Lawler, sounds like he's pulling through though, so that's good.

**Ziero** · 2012-09-10 22:25

I never understood the hate for Cena's "five moves of doom" and the claim that "he can't wrestle" when every one of the most popular wrestlers out there had their own five moves. I re-watched a lot of the "best matches" from the attitude era and any time it was two big names, they would use their same basic moves in every match. I can understand the hate for a stale character, but every superstar has their own stale move sets with very little change outside of major PPV main events.

That said, even with as much as fans "hate" him, he can still get people cheering

Originally Posted by Clemz

I'm not generally a fan of Cole, as I think the heel announcer schtick is beyond dumb, but you can genuinely hear the distress in his voice as he's giving those updates. Not having commentary was super surreal, made it so odd, but was a nice show of respect for Lawler, sounds like he's pulling through though, so that's good.

He's actually dropped the heel schtick...for the most part...and has stuck to being a straight up announcer. But yea, you could tell that what was happening was serious in his later updates as he looked like he was about to break down right there.

**Melena** · 2012-09-10 22:39

Originally Posted by Trichocyst

DDP's run in WWF was awful. That character was a joke and DDP was a guy that people loved to cheer.

Are you talking about the horrible undertaker stalking shit or His thing with Christian which was actually quite enjoyable and a good way to go out and retire?

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