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  1. #101
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    Dumb shit really.

    A) not every game is online
    B) If he/she playing a game rated M, the problem is the children being on those games, not him/her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    nignogs defending public masturbation and kidnapping, for the sake of not being banned from xbawx. someone here sounds like they on a sex offenders list to me.
    Sorry to disappoint, nothing equivalent in Germany and I sure as hell wouldn't be on it.
    I'm merely pointing out blatant flaws in someone's warped idea of justice, so if that bothers you, tough luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    i know none of you nerds had sex with your teachers so I don't understand the sex offender list sympathy at all... some of you are either on it or close to someone who is on it for "bullshit reasons". don't care, you still did something fucking stupid to get on the list, so now you can't play the latest tales game, bummer.
    The only person i know who even might be on it is a cousin i barely know, who was arrested a year or two back for distributing child porn. The only thing i can tell you about him that i haven't already is his name.

    Believe it or not, it's possible to care about injustices without having a stake in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acevalefor View Post
    Day and Perm, both of you sound like you have never been wronged by the fucked up system. Just wait until that happens before you go throwing around the "Fuck them, they are criminals" argument.

    I do have someone close to me that is on the sex offenders list. You know why? Because he peed at his grandma's house while his sister was in the bath tub with the curtains closed. He was fucking 9 years old. A couple of adults freaked the fuck out and he got the book thrown at him. Was removed and placed in a group home and is now a registered sex offender. This happened 13 years ago and he is still fucked. I wish I knew more about the case, but from what I do know, the adults involved lied about a few things and that's how it escalated so quickly for him.

    That case right there is why I am interested in pointing out sweeping generalizations in the way laws are written. Banning child molesters from social gaming networks? OK. Banning everyone on a registry that has multiple flaws is where the problem lies. Fix the registry and remove all the fucked up bullshit ways to get on that registry, then talk about using that registry to expand the ways offenders are affected.

    Someone else missing the point. What you're complaining about is the manner in which a person was unjustly prosecuted and indicted. That's great that you think that this is bullshit and have strong feelings about it, that doesn't change the fact that the ones who are guilty of really fucked up crimes should be punished and kept away from platforms that children participate on. You being against sex offenders banned from vidya because someone you know was fucked by the system on the other end makes zero sense at all. The punishment is being on the list, this is your argument, the punishment of them being banned from video games is a consequence of being on that list.

    if you're going to be passionate about the topic but make your case tangled up in the details of the restrictions of those on the list and not prevention of those being put on the list I have no sympathy for you. it's shitty, I get it, but the bottom line is the vast majority of the people on that list are bad people and don't deserve the right to have access to children in any manner. fight the source of the injustice, not a symptom of it.

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    Agreed. I don't subscribed to the "if one innocent person is wrong, then the entire system has failed" mantra. There's more than enough guilty people on the registry to justify this issue. I feel bad for your cousin, but he shouldn't have been pissing around kids in a warzone, essentially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm tha Fineass View Post
    Someone else missing the point.
    I got the point and I agree with you. What I am saying is that the list needs to be cleaned up. Because I know there are people on that list that don't deserve to be, it makes it more personal and really makes you think more about the consequences of being on that list a little more. It lessens the "They're criminals, fuck em" mentality.
    That being said, bad people are bad. I get it. If I had it my way, the serious sex offenders (Child rapists, etc.) would be shot after being tortured with fire and water for 2 weeks...maybe longer. But first they would have to work to pay for the cost of their own torture and execution. I also think much harsher punishments for every crime where the criminal is caught in the act would be a great thing too. But that's another topic.

    Go ahead and ban pedos from XBL/PSN. Just don't use a list that is so incredibly sweeping and includes people who's crimes are not child related (or even sex related for that matter) to enforce such a ban.

    Edit: Lucavi, he is my step brother.
    I don't think the system is a failure if innocents, or at least less guilty (if that makes sense) people are wronged. I do think remedial steps need to be taken when such cases arrise though.

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    Doesn't matter who he is, really. No one individual can make or break the argument. Clean the list up, sure, but there's a billion other things that take priority over that.

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    Yeah, I can't be convinced otherwise. I have a kid now so I have a pretty hard line when it comes to protecting him and I don't care if other criminals of a sexual or perceived sexual nature are lumped in with pedos. Fix the way people are put on the list, sure, but don't prevent legit sickos from being denied access to kids because of a fault line in the beginning of the system.

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    We should just lock them all up forever instead, that way they definitely can't get to your children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm tha Fineass View Post
    Yeah, I can't be convinced otherwise. I have a kid now so I have a pretty hard line when it comes to protecting him and I don't care if other criminals of a sexual or perceived sexual nature are lumped in with pedos. Fix the way people are put on the list, sure, but don't prevent legit sickos from being denied access to kids because of a fault line in the beginning of the system.
    I agree, though I think that hardly anyone was arguing in favour of this law being the real problem (or maybe I missed something); the only problem is the list and the way there's no distinction between child predators and other sexual offenders whose crimes bear absolutely no relevance to what this new law is supposed to do. And, of course, some things take priority over fixing that, but that doesn't make it less of an issue.

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    up in here

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    We should just lock them all up forever instead, that way they definitely can't get to your children.
    Yeah dude I mean if he can't play xbox live he might as well just be in prison ya know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Yeah dude I mean if he can't play xbox live he might as well just be in prison ya know?
    Pretty much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
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    No shit. Some people need to listen to themselves.

    And now for something completely different... Hey HALO kids, be careful who you tell you're going to rape! Chances are, they'll rape you first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petit View Post
    I agree, though I think that hardly anyone was arguing in favour of this law being the real problem (or maybe I missed something); the only problem is the list and the way there's no distinction between child predators and other sexual offenders whose crimes bear absolutely no relevance to what this new law is supposed to do. And, of course, some things take priority over fixing that, but that doesn't make it less of an issue.

    people are using the overreaction to OMG NO VIDYA?! as a vehicle to attack the faults of the list. not a good look.

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    I don't think looks are a problem here; if anything, an issue that has been present since the introduction of the list has now become apparent to yet another group that might have been oblivious to the problem before. If it helps more people realize that something is wrong with the list, then I really wouldn't consider that to be a bad thing. Of course, I wouldn't put the lack of access to videogame networks on par with, say, being denied a job or being scourned by your neighbourhood because you happened to pee in public, but an issue remains an issue. That's the only problem I could see - a greater issue with something being pushed into the background because a larger group only focuses on the less serious issue. That could certainly give off a bad vibe.

    If it helps information regarding a problem becoming more widespread, then I'm all for it, but people should know where to draw the line and focus on the more serious problems associated with what they're getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Yeah dude I mean if he can't play xbox live he might as well just be in prison ya know?
    but day don't some prisons have vidya now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
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    I knew this shit sounded familiar.

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    Who the fuck is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnus View Post
    Who the fuck is that?
    Nancy Grace.

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