Let's talk end-game raiding.

[ringthree]

How is end-game raiding in Rift?

I currently play WoW and did end-game in FFXI. Obviously it isn't going to be like FFXI, but I mention it because most people understand the level of dedication it takes to do end-game FFXI, so you get the idea of what I am used to.

WoW end-game, even on heroics is a little light currently. I was hoping for something a little more tiered and difficult which I have heard that Rift supplies.

Is that about right? Anything else I should know?

[AidenCarby]

Be prepared to play a lot of broken content, only way they fix it is by nerfing the fuck out of everything.

[ringthree]

Be prepared to play a lot of broken content, only way they fix it is by nerfing the fuck out of everything.

Broken? Please to be explaining.

[Khalil]

Broken? Please to be explaining.

He's talking about our latest raid instance, Infernal Dawn.

RIFT is very similar to WoW when new raid instances come out, they nerf the fuck out of the "older" content to make sure everyone can access it. With Infernal Dawn, atm, there is only 1 boss that is bugged but that is being address as I'm typing this.

Honestly, the tiers are reminiscent that of WoW. If you think end-game raiding in WoW is easy, you'll feel the same way of RIFT.

[Melena]

Ehh, the first 4 bosses in ID are relatively easy in comparison to the previous tier on launch, but the latest boss released in ID is no pushover. I felt HK (the previous tier) reminded me of the good old days of TBC raiding in WoW. I'd say it's harder then wow in some cases, some bosses easier. They at least are putting in some effort of difficulty, whereas it looks like blizzard dropped the ball in cata with only H Ragnoros being a cock block on difficulty.

[Crizto]

The first tier (GSB/RoS) were always really straight forward with very simply mechanics and very lackluster DPS/HPS requirements. It really didn't foster any sort of competitive atmosphere or the desire to better one's game. I think that's why guilds found HK to be so difficult at the start. If you stuck it out and raided all of HK you got to experience the first challenging 20-man instance in Rift where it actually had significant healing and DPS requirements; so much so that you need people to really work on becoming better players. Fights like Molinar and Akylios really trained a group how to work together well and it had mini-DPS checks built within it (other than the enrage timer). On the grand scheme of things it made a lot of guilds better at raids than what GSB/RoS did, and that is probably why ID wings don't seem as challenging as HK wings.

Overall I am impressed with ID so far (except how buggy Maklamos has been, but Zilas was just as bugged when HK first came out) and I still get that same thrill for killing a boss the first time. My entire guild literally had to take a 10 minute break after killing Ituziel the first time because everyone was so excited; that fight reminded me a lot about when I killed Grug and Molinar for the first time. I think because ID doesn't have as many bosses that people are really pulled towards the fact that 1 boss out of the first 5 is really buggy and claim the instance is crappy or easy. Laethys so far seems like a great fight that will definitely take a week or two for top guilds to kill and Maelforge will probably be even harder and hopefully be like Akylios difficulty.

[AidenCarby]

Hk has been out for months and it's still broken, fights still bug out etc. Is why I quit the game, they didn't bother fixing half the problems with raiding in this game but they made sure weddings were on time, dumb shit like that.

[Melena]

Weird, only fight in HK i ever see the occasional bug is Zilas with his laser getting frozen in place or the occasional Grug Reset but we figured out an easy solution to ensure it never happens.

[Senji]

You must not have done HK a lot when it released, shit was broken everywhere.

Great game, but Trions testing entails the bare minimums to not crash servers and rash nerf bat swings after playing with PTS for 30 mins. Done with that.

[Melena]

We were about 6 weeks behind due to getting a massively late start. Our first infiltrator kill we had 15 guild members lol. I knew shit was buggy at the beginning, but Aiden was making int sound like 9 months later shit was still buggy, which imo it's not. Now Maklamos the Scryer on the other hand, fuck that fucking buggy piece of shit boss. How fucking hard is it to design adds that spawn at 10% instead of relying on a fucking mechanic that hasn't worked since day 1 of earth wing.

[LidenbokValour]

I've recently came back to this game after quitting a couple months after release, the end game community was bleak and raiding guilds were rare.

Now the game has fully developed and is in full blossom in terms of end game I decided to give it a try! only problem is I quit with my character T1 Raid/T2 Expert geared so until I have farmed at least 4 piece T2 raiding gear I probably won't be able to find a fully functional progress guild because most guilds are currently progressing in ID, especially my shard Even then finding a guild still raiding HK would be an absolute stroke of luck.

Sucks a bit!

[Crizto]

You can always server transfer to a different shard. It's not too difficult to find shards where guilds run HK runs with PUGs/Alts where you can hop in and get some nice gear

[LidenbokValour]

I don't have the dollar to throw about right now for a shard transfere but I'll keep an eye out for alt runs and shouts.

[Crizto]

Shard transfers are free and you can do it once a week

[LidenbokValour]

I did remember reading something about that awhile ago but could not confirm it.

Thanks for that! Better get on the offical forums and see what I can do

[LidenbokValour]

Turns out there is a shard in the EU that are pretty renown for pugging raids.

Only been here 30 mins and cleared 2 bosses in GP and now in a full GSB clear shout... feeling slightly revived about this now lol