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    So did the guy ate his own shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
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    Literally the better movie after a certain point.
    fixed that for you

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    Let's not forget both movies had a male lead named Steve played by a Chris!!!

    Different World wars though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    So did the guy ate his own shit?
    I'm sure he was never seen from again.

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    People acting like Captain America isn't the better movie.

    Y'all are fucking high.

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    Capt 1? It's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Let's not forget both movies had a male lead named Steve played by a Chris!!!

    Different World wars though.
    That was my first post! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
    People acting like Captain America isn't the better movie.

    Y'all are fucking high.
    Meh, I always thought cap 1 was sorta weak. They overdid it with the montages during the war. And rushed a lot of stuff. Like, I get it. They had to fit like 4 years into a 2 hour movie, and it was ok. But compared to WW? Or most of the MCU? It just didn't do it for me.

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    Cap1 was boring as fk to me. Cap 2 was hella more fun. Still waiting to see WW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    That was my first post! lol
    Good sir I cannot be asked to click all the spoilers. It's far too much. Different war though!!! Captain America punched Nazi's. Captain Steve Trevor punched those Nazi's fathers before they became Nazi's. Probably the reason they became Nazis in the first place

    As far as the debate on better movies it's Cap 1 <<<<< WW << Cap 2 ~Civil war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
    People acting like Captain America isn't the better movie.

    Y'all are fucking high.
    This man speaks the truth. WW2 Cap can be good. Get over it.

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    First Avenger is a far superior movie to WW. I don't get the Cap 1 hate, first half is near perfect. Forcing the writers to include the frozen in ice tie in for Avengers brought the second half down, but still an incredible movie overall.

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    Ww got a random powerup almost every fight, to the point that by the end I thought I was watching a DBZ live action with her
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    floating and telekenis smashing rocks n shit
    . There was no cohesion or growth to it, it's literally just random powerups to help her survive the plot device. I feel like everyone on this forum is grading on a hard curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intrinsic View Post
    First Avenger is a far superior movie to WW. I don't get the Cap 1 hate, first half is near perfect. Forcing the writers to include the frozen in ice tie in for Avengers brought the second half down, but still an incredible movie overall.
    Cap being frozen in ice until modern day and joining the Avengers when he wakes up is what actually happened in the comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Ww got a random powerup almost every fight, to the point that by the end I thought I was watching a DBZ live action with her
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    floating and telekenis smashing rocks n shit
    . There was no cohesion or growth to it, it's literally just random powerups to help her survive the plot device. I feel like everyone on this forum is grading on a hard curve.

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    "Random" or "discovering her demigod powers incrementally as she continues to fight, as is established would happen in the first act?"

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    ^

    They kept saying she wasn't just an Amazon warrior. It was actually kind of cool the first time she was suddenly throwing giant vehicles around with no real warning to it.

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    I did kind of wonder why Steve didn't just dive bomb the plane into the nearest body of water instead of blowing it up in the sky. Diana could have pulled him out of the wreckage as a call-back to the first time they met, woulda been a nice ending. But I'm also not sure if he dies in the comics or not so maybe he has to be dead?

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    Cap 1 and 2 are better than WW. WW is a terrific movie and I really enjoyed it but it's a good half tier below those two imo.

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    Cap 1 and 2 are nowhere close on the same spectrum so no. 2 is definitely better. 1 was okay.

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    Sure, we want to hand wave it now, but where was
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    in BvS? Will it show up again in the future?

    Like I said, grading on a real big curve here. It's even more telling cause
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    this movie doesn't hide that it's one big flashback, even if the war in question makes that obvious. They literally give her a powerup on the level of Superman this flick, with it absent from the "sequel". I won't hold my breath expecting her abilities to carry over to JL, nor will I expect her abilities to not become "oh she's technically a god so we're gonna give her continuous mid fight powerups to resolve the conflict until we decide now is a good time to recast her". It's just lazy writing and foresight, and it's boring tbh unless the plot is interesting enough to carry it, which imo for this movie it is not, especially when the villains don't have that Loki charisma to guarantee a spot in the sequels.


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    Personally I appreciated WW better, and I'm a huge Cap fan:
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    Diana starting out as being "just a warrior" and discovering she could do more was a great progression. Unlike Superman she avoided causing death and seemed to really get a harness on her responsibilities. Not only that, it was a more gradual progression to "super-powered being" and out of left field (for the most part).

    I never liked that Cap basically ended the movie by punching out the Red Skull and RS being teleported to deep space/disintegrated and then plane crash. You knew what would happen, you knew how he'd get there, you knew basically the whole story after that.

    With Steve Trevor I actually had some sort of hope that she would fly up at the last minute and rescue him, but this gave his death meaning and purpose. She needed to understand that she has to fight her fights and humanity has to fight theirs, and that sacrifice is a part of it.

    Anyway, without getting into too much detail, Wonder Woman was an improved First Avenger and much more compelling if only because DC had a good template to draw from.


    Also, regarding her "powers":
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    You can see her look of disgust when she lets loose and realizes she can't just go ham without causing massive destruction. She's not going to just unleash the fury of being a Greek demi-god when there are comrades that could get hurt because of it.

    I'm guessing you just didn't understand the character. I don't even like DC, and none of this went over my head.

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