2012 NHL Offseason Thread: ROCK OUT WITH YOUR LOCKOUT

[Sepukku]

Clearly Malkin > Staal, but there are scenarios where Staal staying is better than Malkin staying, depending on what offers you get for each and the presumption that Malkin's stock is at his highest now before Crosby plays 60+ games this season and Geno finishes with 80 points as a result.

As for why Malkin does the inconsistent thing, its very simple.

Spoiler: show

HE'S RUSSIAN.

The Carolina thing really intrigued me cause when I brought it up, my friend reminded me that Carolina has one of the biggest D prospects in the game (more than Morrow and Despres) in Ryan Murphy.

Eric Staal (C)
Jussi Jokinen (Wing)
Ryan Murphy (D)
1st Round Pick

Eric Staal saves you cap room compared to Geno, Jordan perhaps takes a slight hometown discount as a thank you for getting his brother. You can then roll with

Kunitz/Crosby/Neal
Staal/Staal/Jokinen

or

Kunitz/Crosby/Jokinen
Staal/Staal/Neal

or (if hes cool with it since hes got his brother in the 2C role he wanted)

Kunitz/Crosby/Dupius
Neal/Staal/Jokinen
Cooke/Staal/Kennedy <--- this unit is incredible, the only time Kennedy is remotely tolerable.

With Jokinen and Murphy, combined with Despres and Morrow, Kennedy and Martin both become very expendable and you can shop them for either a new winger to bump Dupius down to 3W in Kennedy's spot (if going with Staals at 2 and 3 C) or a new better-than-most-team's 3C (if going with both Staals in the top 6). As bad as Martin was in the playoffs, he still can get a 2nd line-quality winger or a center somewhere between 2nd and 3rd line level talent, no problemo.

Now, if your top 6 is Staal/Staal/Kunitz/Neal/Crosby/Jokinen, you're starting to look very very large at the forward position. Both top 2 lines are going to have at least 2 wrecking balls in the Staals, Kunitz, and Neal. Crosby won't hit, but hes also incredibly hard to knock off the puck.

As for the D, your D depth could look like:

Orpik/Letang
Michalek/Niskanen
Engelland/Morrow/Despres/Murphy

Goodbye Lovejoy.

[Sepukku]

Yahoo just posted an article today about Nash derby and how Carolina is a "late entry" into the Nash sweepstakes citing Eric Staal and Ryan Murphy as possible pieces of a package for Nash.

[Richybear]

I'd pity Nash if that happened.
Go from a shit team that's built around you with very little help (Jeff Carter aside, he never had anyone to skate with for years) to off to Carolina for one of their 2 decent players.

[Bregor]

Trade for Nash AND Malkin.

Skinner - Malkin - Nash

fapfapfapfap

[Ratatapa]

So will Wulgang Move away now that Lindberg has been traded to Tampa Bay?

[Brill Weave]

Thor long story short Phil Bourque mentioned trading Malkin if they didn't get any offers of value for Jordan Staal. Which inevitably led to us making up trade scenarios to get us one day closer to the puck dropping.

[isladar]

We already lost him, lol. They fired him and kept Kitchner

I totally reversed that in my brain, goddamnit, haha.

[Ace-o-fire]

Jesus Christ, fuck moving so much more of a hassle then i thought. Ugh at least it's the off season now.

[Deader2818]

Still in North Jersey?

[bluefan]

So will Wulgang Move away now that Lindberg has been traded to Tampa Bay?

Wulf just moved didn't he?

[Judai]

Yea, Wulf moved to DC

[Bregor]

Yea, Wulf moved to DC

Yeah, I've been keeping my eyes peeled for a hulking, bearded drunkard roaming around town in a Weber jersey.

[Ace-o-fire]

Still in North Jersey?

Moving back up to Michigan to Kalamazoo, or East Lansing. The housing market up there is my dream right now.

[Ratatapa]

Wulf just moved didn't he?

oh lol

[Deader2818]

http://images.spox.com/userfiles/g/z...NYbwFzDUo1.jpg

[Ivaden]

As for why Malkin does the inconsistent thing, its very simple.

HE'S RUSSIAN.

He's come out and said that previous seasons he has been lazy and unmotivated (in comparison to last off-season). What we seen from him last year was a motivated, beastmode Malkin. I'd have to think long and hard about supporting Shero as a GM if he ever got rid of Malkin, especially if it were to pander to fucking Jordan Staal of all people.

Yeah, I know, it's all hypothetical discussion here, but I refuse to even entertain the idea.

[Ratatapa]

Yes he was beast mode but once again Crosby wasn't there at start, when Crosby came back he was less beast mode then at the start

What i want to see is a Beastmode Malkin when Crosby is there

[Ivaden]

He had 33 points in the last 20 games, those 20 being the games Crosby was back for, and only three of those games he went without a point. Come on.

[bluefan]

Watching Malkin at the recent worlds, I would love to see him play for a team like the Jackets and just see what he can really do.

[Palin]

He had 33 points in the last 20 games, those 20 being the games Crosby was back for, and only three of those games he went without a point. Come on.

BUT HE TALKS FUNNY