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    One day Ishido!! One day!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishido View Post
    I blame you for getting excited

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    At least this is good new material for @DonCherryParody on Twitter.

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    I personally find some potential in it but thats my option

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    Just accept the offer...theres gonna be another lock out in 8 years either way.

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    "Theres a deal to be made in this current proposal" -Donal Fehr

    Lockout all but over

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    Oh this is what I missed during the most boring two hour staff meeting ever.

    PLEASE BRING ME MY DEAR HACKEY.

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    Re: 2012 NHL Offseason Thread: ROCK OUT WITH YOUR LOCKOUT

    Quote Originally Posted by Ishido View Post
    The proof:



    Yeah that last one means no deal.
    too close to actual compromise, no deal

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    /PLUGS EARS

    LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA.

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    "Contracts may no longer exceed 5 years. In other news, we just signed Bettman to a Islanders~esque 15 year extension for saving our season from a full lockout. The contract length only applies to players." *Spezza Laugh*

    I'm trying to stay calm, but I'm actually optimistic about a season happening now. To get back into full troll-mode, if the season begins on Nov 2nd, it will be the most production Iginla's had in October in recent history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bregor View Post
    I love you.

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    2012 NHL Offseason Thread: ROCK OUT WITH YOUR LOCKOUT

    There won't be any further official updates today per the NHLPA. Twitter is still wide open however

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    So essentially we have something like 8~10 days for the NHL and NHLPA to iron out the finer details of the new proposal and we could still have a full season? I just watched both Bettman and Fehr's press conferences, and as much as I and everyone else hate Bettman, I can't help but think he won a few people over. I personally rather side with his optimistic full season hope over Fehr's "We dunno if we like it yet" mentality

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    2012 NHL Offseason Thread: ROCK OUT WITH YOUR LOCKOUT

    Fehr is a cockmongler. He has that evil looking jewface. Bettman just looks and acts like a rat

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    Share hockey now please, I feel all sorts of lost without it.

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    Yay, I hope I can go to the Winter Classic now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaspinne View Post
    So essentially we have something like 8~10 days for the NHL and NHLPA to iron out the finer details of the new proposal and we could still have a full season? I just watched both Bettman and Fehr's press conferences, and as much as I and everyone else hate Bettman, I can't help but think he won a few people over. I personally rather side with his optimistic full season hope over Fehr's "We dunno if we like it yet" mentality
    Everyone knew Fehr was a huge tool even before negotiations began. But the players wanted the best guy, not the nicest guy, for the job. And they got the best guy. Can't see things good or bad, not everything is black and white. Sometimes there's 50 shades of grey.

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    There were several contradicting reports out there Tuesday regarding the entry-level system, but multiple sources confirmed the new proposal would see ELS go from three years to two years in length. The one caveat is that if you’re a player for example that’s coming from college and joining your NHL team late in the season -- think Chris Kreider of the Rangers -- that doesn’t count against your two-year, entry-level commitment. You would still have to play two full seasons under an entry-level deal. What the offer Tuesday laid out is two full seasons of entry level.

    You may wonder why the heck the league would want to shorten the entry-level deal. Combined with the fact that the league also asked for a five-year limit on term for contracts and UFA eligibility to go to eight years or 28 years old, what the league is trying to do here is change the dynamics of the second contract -- limit the financial flexibility of the second contract -- and change the system so that players now make their big money in the third contract.

    Where as a 50-50 split of revenues would see the 2012-13 salary cap lowered to $59.9 million, the league’s offer calls for all 30 teams to be able to spend up to $70.2 million (this past summer’s cap) for the first year of the deal; essentially giving all 30 teams a 12-month transition period. By Year 2 they must comply with the cap. This is significant given the number of teams that would have been over the cap with not very much time to get under it before the puck drops.

    There are tighter restrictions on the year-to-year salary in player contracts. The salaries can only increase or decrease by no more than 5 percent. Again, this is an attempt to mitigate the "cheat deals" and front-loading that happened in the past CBA. The league’s initial offer in July called for flat salaries across all contracts, so this is a bit of a change, although not much.

    The NHL offer proposes to make the salaries of minor-league players on NHL contracts (above a threshold of $105,000) count against the salary cap. This is to prevent teams from stashing players in the minors (think Wade Redden).

    Embracing an idea first proposed by Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke years ago, the league’s offer included the ability to retain salary in trades. Under the expired CBA, teams could not trade or keep parts of a player’s salary in a trade. This new provision would obviously facilitate trades in a cap market that saw deals minimized, especially in the first half of the season.

    All existing NHL contracts which go longer than five years will be subject to new cap calculations, specifically those deals will count against a team's cap regardless of whether the player is still playing or not. My belief here is that this is the NHL's attempt at correcting the so-called "cheat deals" or back-diving deals -- like those of Marian Hossa or Roberto Luongo -- which carry bogus salaries at the end of deals to lower the cap hit.

    There were conflicting reports about the dynamics or definition of hockey-related revenue in this offer. To be clear: a league source says the NHL does NOT try to change the definition of HRR in this offer like it attempted to in the summer. These are the same old definitions of HRR used in this new offer. Having said that, my guess is that giving the back and forth on HRR language all summer long, the NHLPA will seek further clarification on this Wednesday in its phone call with the league.

    It is a six-year deal with a "mutual option" for a seventh year.

    As part of NHL’s new revenue sharing plan which calls for $200 million, at least 50 percent of the pool will be raised from the top 10 revenue grossing clubs; the distribution of the revenue sharing will be determined every year by a revenue sharing committee (which the NHLPA will be part of).

    In the end, the most important part of this offer and the one that players will have the most focus on is the league’s complicated mechanism in which it says players’ salaries will be kept whole in first few years via deferred payments, etc. My guess is that the NHLPA will try to poke holes in this and would prefer to keep it more simple and have a higher percentage of HRR in the opening few years -- some transition down to 50-50 instead of going to 50-50 right form the start.

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