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  1. #81
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    The initial idea behind BGP was that it would act as a 'Champions League' of sort, relative to BGE and BGW (the 'Premier League' and 'La Liga', if you will). The execution has left much to be desired though, as the top 3 from BGE and BGE haven't been promoted every year. If the execution can't be stepped up, then I think scrapping BGP is the right way to go.

    I'd be happy to handle BGP and subsequent promotion/relegation issues if that set up was wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bregor View Post
    Maybe two divisions instead of four? Adding a flex spot means a lot of starting players every week but it's okay I guess. I also don't get why people hate kickers.

    AKERS
    To me adding divisions just adds a way to screw people out of a deserved playoff spot. People love to complain about scoring a lot and still losing (me included), and being screwed out of a playoff spot because you are in the "strong" division is pretty much the same thing. Still open to it if that's what people want, those are just my thoughts.

    As for kickers, they are completely random year to year, and there is no skill involved in picking the right guy. To me, if the best strategy is to wait until the last round, they shouldn't exist at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bregor View Post
    In 20-man, it looks like Plow (Plow You!) and his dad (Wildcats) might not be back, and I'm guessing there will be a handful of others too. Mossy can get you in I'm sure.

    I really like how we had a forum group for the league and were able to pre-draft two or three rounds beforehand.
    I liked the pre-draft also, will definitely set that up again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazaruz View Post
    Fuck man i want in this year!!!! BG WEST, 20 man, money league, i want it all!
    This is the current waiting list, let me know if I left anyone out or if you want to be added. I know Gadritan is out but I'm not positive on which team was his so I am waiting to delete it. Not sure if Plow and his dad are out yet but I PM'd him.

    1. Cail
    2. Cleverness
    3. noblemountain
    4. desertigloo
    5. Omnipotent
    6. Lazaruz

    iirc it took some effort to fill all 20 slots last year so hopefully I can get all of you in

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    I like 4 divisions better than 2. With 2, there's like no way the winner of a division would have ended up missing the playoffs anyway, all it does is maybe give them a bye because they won, but really were 3rd or 4th in the league and now they have the #2 seed. No drama.
    4 divisions can have 1 garbage team from the garbage division of the year, make the playoffs and hope for a miracle run. Drama.

    So for me, it's either no divisions, or 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarthelloSylph View Post
    I'd be happy to handle BGP and subsequent promotion/relegation issues if that set up was wanted.
    Happy to have someone motivated to make this work, for sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrius View Post
    I like 4 divisions better than 2. With 2, there's like no way the winner of a division would have ended up missing the playoffs anyway, all it does is maybe give them a bye because they won, but really were 3rd or 4th in the league and now they have the #2 seed. No drama.
    4 divisions can have 1 garbage team from the garbage division of the year, make the playoffs and hope for a miracle run. Drama.

    So for me, it's either no divisions, or 4.
    Yeah, I prefer having byes for the top 2 seeds but I felt that only 6 out of 20 teams going to the playoffs would be too few. If others prefer 4 divisions, speak up and I will change it.

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    6 or 8 out of 20 is good. Now I need to break into 2QB playoffs where I've been 5th 2 years in a row where it's top 4 of 12.

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    Just noticed I signed up for BGW and not 20 man. Where my 20 man invite?

    Nvm, I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Just noticed I signed up for BGW and not 20 man. Where my 20 man invite?

    Nvm, I see it.
    Good I was a little worried when you said you didn't get your BGW invite.

    BGP would work best imo if we had a BG3 to pull from as well. The way it is now it is BGE/W commissioners, top 3, and then going down the list to fill. The problem comes in when you had a previous BGP winner also place in the top 3 of their league, or a commissioner as a top 3, we have to go further down the list to pull from. With all the people wanting spots, why doesn't some take the initiative to make a BGSouth, same points/rules/positions as E/W, draft style is up to the group?

    How many in BGW want an auction style? If we get a 2/3rds majority we will do that.

    Oh and it was never setup as people living on the east or west, it was just a way of separating them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    Happy to have someone motivated to make this work, for sure!
    OK, let's get started. Was there even a BGP last year? If so, can someone post the standings? Also, can someone post the BGE final standings?

    BGW top 4:
    Cardiac Cats
    Hurricalance
    Bronze Medalist (me)
    CowBoyee's

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    For what it's worth, I really like the idea of a league you have to fight to get into, my past failures aside.

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    Why is BGP only made from BGE/BGW winners? Why not invite 20man, 2qb, or IDP winners also to fill in needed spots?


    And still no BG Dynasty league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeb View Post
    Why is BGP only made from BGE/BGW winners? Why not invite 20man, 2qb, or IDP winners also to fill in needed spots?


    And still no BG Dynasty league?
    That was just the initial setup/idea. I'm not against inviting winners of other leagues. Of course, the BGP setup is copied from that of BGW/BGE, so it wouldn't have 2 qb or IDP. I'm on board though.

    Who were the winners of 20 man, 2 QB and IDP last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarthelloSylph View Post
    That was just the initial setup/idea. I'm not against inviting winners of other leagues. Of course, the BGP setup is copied from that of BGW/BGE, so it wouldn't have 2 qb or IDP. I'm on board though.

    Who were the winners of 20 man, 2 QB and IDP last year?
    20-man was:
    1. Smilin' n' Scammin (Bregor)
    2. Male Models (forget who this is)
    3. Rum Ham (rl friend of mine)
    4. me

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarthelloSylph View Post
    That was just the initial setup/idea. I'm not against inviting winners of other leagues. Of course, the BGP setup is copied from that of BGW/BGE, so it wouldn't have 2 qb or IDP. I'm on board though.

    Who were the winners of 20 man, 2 QB and IDP last year?
    2QB was
    1st Akiyama's Cakes
    2nd The Fourpeat
    3rd Birds of War

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzazaelFenrir View Post
    How many in BGW want an auction style? If we get a 2/3rds majority we will do that.
    YES PLEASE

    Quote Originally Posted by BarthelloSylph View Post
    OK, let's get started. Was there even a BGP last year? If so, can someone post the standings? Also, can someone post the BGE final standings?
    There was BGP last year... Here's the final standings:
    1. Akiyama's Cakes
    2. Plow You!
    3. Bradylocks
    4. Byrd's Big Beavers
    5. Kurp
    6. Tyr
    7. Octopus
    8. Hurricalance
    9. Cardiac Cats
    10. Drinkin' a Forte
    11. Ryan Y.
    12. recuperi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirkle View Post
    20-man was:
    1. Smilin' n' Scammin (Bregor)
    2. Male Models (forget who this is)
    3. Rum Ham (rl friend of mine)
    4. me
    Do you know if your friend is doing 20-man again this year?

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    I'll ask him but he probably will be

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    1: Purple People Eaters
    2: Libertarians
    3: Bazooka's Circus
    4: Cardiac Cats

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    k. I'll just post the list of 20-man teams last year that have yet to accept their invite.

    Plow You! - Plow
    Replacement Scabs
    Git Awf Me
    Wildcats - Plow's dad
    Rum Ham - Skirkle's bff
    The Greatness
    Bradylocks - Demos?
    EdEddandEdWerder - headspace

    If anybody knows who the other people are on BG let me know so I can PM them. There are still 5 people waiting to get in the league for sure so I want to find out who's in and who's out.

    edit: derp, just realized all the teams are labeled in the 20-man draft group from last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirkle View Post
    20-man was:
    1. Smilin' n' Scammin (Bregor)
    2. Male Models (forget who this is)
    3. Rum Ham (rl friend of mine)
    4. me
    What was my rank? Cardiac Cats. I thought I went to the playoffs in that one, but I deleted my team since I wasn't playing again this year. Can't figure out a way to view it anymore.

    Could be way wrong. Had a hell of a time keeping up with 234978294723 leagues.

    Edit: nvm, found it. was 6th. Lost as the #1 seed in the first round of the playoffs by 1.12pts lol

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