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    FFXIV story/lore thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    I don't remember what happened to Odin when I killed him at Fanfest. Maybe he's our 2.5 Primal fight though and we'll get some story on it.
    Pretty sure he exploded into aether.

    Edit: late reply \o/

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    Someone on OF lore forums thinks that this isn't about us, it's about them.
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    The song of Dravanians in Dalamud.

    I close my eyes, tell us why must we suffer
    Release your hands, for your will drags us under
    My legs grow tired, tell us where must we wander
    How can we carry on if redemption's beyond us?

    To all of my children in whom Life flows abundant
    To all of my children to whom Death hath passed his judgement
    The soul yearns for honor, and the flesh the hereafter
    Look to those who walked before to lead those who walk after

    Shining is the Land's light of justice
    Ever flows the Land's well of purpose
    Walk free, walk free, walk free, believe...
    The Land is alive, so believe...

    Suffer [Feel] Promise [Think] Witness [Teach] Reason [Hear]
    Follow [Feel] Wander [Think] Stumble [Teach] Listen [Speak]
    Honor [Speak] Value [Tell] Whisper [Tell] Mention [Hope]
    Ponder [Hope] Warrant [Wish] Cherish [Wish] Welcome [Roam]
    Witness [Roam] Listen [Roam] Suffer [Roam] Sanction [Sleep]
    Weather [Sleep] Wander [Sleep] Answer [Sleep on]

    Now open your eyes while our plight is repeated
    Still deaf to our cries, lost in hope we lie defeated
    Our souls have been torn, and our bodies forsaken
    Bearing sins of the past, for our future is taken

    War born of strife, these trials persuade us not
    (Feel what? Learn what?)
    Words without sound, these lies betray our thoughts
    Mired by a plague of doubt, the Land, she mourns
    (See what? Hear what?)
    Judgement binds all we hold to a memory of scorn
    Tell us why, given Life, we are meant to die, helpless in our cries?

    Witness [Feel] Suffer [Think] Borrow [Teach] Reason [Hear]
    Follow [Feel] Stumble [Think] Wander [Teach] Listen [Blink]
    Whisper [Blink] Shoulder [Blink] Ponder [Blink] Weather [Hear]
    Answer [Look] Answer [Think] Answer together

    Thy Life is a riddle, to bear rapture and sorrow
    To listen, to suffer, to entrust unto tomorrow
    In one fleeting moment, from the Land doth life flow
    Yet in one fleeting moment, for anew it doth grow
    In the same fleeting moment thou must live, die and know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evane View Post
    Someone on OF lore forums thinks that this isn't about us, it's about them.
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    The song of Dravanians in Dalamud.

    I close my eyes, tell us why must we suffer
    Release your hands, for your will drags us under
    My legs grow tired, tell us where must we wander
    How can we carry on if redemption's beyond us?

    To all of my children in whom Life flows abundant
    To all of my children to whom Death hath passed his judgement
    The soul yearns for honor, and the flesh the hereafter
    Look to those who walked before to lead those who walk after

    Shining is the Land's light of justice
    Ever flows the Land's well of purpose
    Walk free, walk free, walk free, believe...
    The Land is alive, so believe...

    Suffer [Feel] Promise [Think] Witness [Teach] Reason [Hear]
    Follow [Feel] Wander [Think] Stumble [Teach] Listen [Speak]
    Honor [Speak] Value [Tell] Whisper [Tell] Mention [Hope]
    Ponder [Hope] Warrant [Wish] Cherish [Wish] Welcome [Roam]
    Witness [Roam] Listen [Roam] Suffer [Roam] Sanction [Sleep]
    Weather [Sleep] Wander [Sleep] Answer [Sleep on]

    Now open your eyes while our plight is repeated
    Still deaf to our cries, lost in hope we lie defeated
    Our souls have been torn, and our bodies forsaken
    Bearing sins of the past, for our future is taken

    War born of strife, these trials persuade us not
    (Feel what? Learn what?)
    Words without sound, these lies betray our thoughts
    Mired by a plague of doubt, the Land, she mourns
    (See what? Hear what?)
    Judgement binds all we hold to a memory of scorn
    Tell us why, given Life, we are meant to die, helpless in our cries?

    Witness [Feel] Suffer [Think] Borrow [Teach] Reason [Hear]
    Follow [Feel] Stumble [Think] Wander [Teach] Listen [Blink]
    Whisper [Blink] Shoulder [Blink] Ponder [Blink] Weather [Hear]
    Answer [Look] Answer [Think] Answer together

    Thy Life is a riddle, to bear rapture and sorrow
    To listen, to suffer, to entrust unto tomorrow
    In one fleeting moment, from the Land doth life flow
    Yet in one fleeting moment, for anew it doth grow
    In the same fleeting moment thou must live, die and know
    In context of having the full story now, yeah it could concievably be about them.

    Also,
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    they're not Dravanians, they're Meracydians of the Allagan-conquered Meracydia. I mean, it's probably going to end up being arbitrary as Dragons probably have an ancestral home or something (maybe Meracydia is that land of origin?), as might concievably be revealed in Heavensward..

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    Unfortunately, despite rending several divine forms asunder, we are no closer to our answers on Answers.

    Primals, Ascians, dragons, mortals, Hydaelyn/Zodiark who the fuck knows right now ;;

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    If I remember right, the song was in the dats since the beginning of 1.0, so I would imagine it was written to be for us. I'd still love to know what their original plan for the song was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qeomash View Post
    If I remember right, the song was in the dats since the beginning of 1.0
    You hear it in the opening cutscene just after you finish creating your character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelweiss View Post
    In context of having the full story now, yeah it could concievably be about them.

    Also,
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    they're not Dravanians, they're Meracydians of the Allagan-conquered Meracydia. I mean, it's probably going to end up being arbitrary as Dragons probably have an ancestral home or something (maybe Meracydia is that land of origin?), as might concievably be revealed in Heavensward..
    Yea not dravanians. Blame it on sleepiness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutriss View Post
    You hear it in the opening cutscene just after you finish creating your character.
    It was also used in promotional material for 1.0, so yes, the song has been around forever.

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    I got a really shitty screenshot of a post Turn 12 cutscene that brings up a very interesting question.

    Somewhat (un)fortunately there's not much spoiling because of a bright flash, however the important part is in the middle/epicenter of the flash too lol

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    Explanation of the shot
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    That's the legacy mark in the middle of the Twelve's symbols, used by Louisoix in an attempt to stall Teraflare
    What is the importance of the mark?

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    Ok so I went back and watched the end of an era CS. It also appeared when Lou is trying to cage Bahamut back in a new Dalamud. But this time it's Bahamut in an aetherial moon in the middle of the legacy mark. So I guess it's some sort of a crosshair/point of focused energy/where the 12's powers combine?

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    Is there anything on phoenix and/or the phoenix arena that has that symbol on it? I just figured it was the symbol for phoenix.

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    I remember them referring to the Legacy Mark as "Mark of the Twelve" in a dev post or patch notes (probably the notes for the beta where we could import our Legacy characters) at some point so I'm guessing it's just that?

    Edit: yeah, that was in the manual.
    http://1.1.1.1/bmi/i.imgur.com/SL3ZrZt.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
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    Is there anything on phoenix and/or the phoenix arena that has that symbol on it? I just figured it was the symbol for phoenix.
    No.

    Also Legacy master race gets some minor acknowledgement in T12 like they did in T9.

    Alisaie: Where are we?
    "Your companion knows this place well, for it was here that he slew Nael van Darnus." vs "The final resting place of Nael van Darnus."
    sort of thing (though even more minor)

    I must've missed/forgotten the official explanation of the mark, but it makes sense considering everything. Still made me feel pump as fuck.

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    So now we know Path 2.5 is called Before the Fall, I was thinking what could the 'Fall' be? I think I have an idea I wanted to share: the 'Fall' will be the Garleans sweeping into the three countries and either capturing the cities or assassinating the leaders (not the Big Three though). We will end up embroiled in the whole Ishgard conflict to gain their support to take back the three countries / push back the Garleans. This would certainly be a 'big event' that Yoshi teased would be as epic as Meteorfall.

    The only problem with this theory is that they have to keep the Grand Company quests in place (for the primal fights, rank up quests, etc) so the Companies and the leaders cannot be taken out themselves. Basically, quests outside of the MSQ can't be radically altered, no?

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    I thought it was a reference to the Sultana stepping down, but I'm dumb so that can't be it.

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    Thought maybe it meant the Fall of Ishgard or whatever, but idk, thought the expansion was about the war itself so that makes no sense.

    Though maybe its simply our fall... I mean we're always praised and cheered as the hero of light in all the cutscenes, everyone singing our praises and such, it almost feels like they're setting us up for a big fall of some sort... a kick to our ego if you will. But this is just because my theory is (Hydawhoever) a "primal" of sorts birthed by the 5 races and their prayers after the Calamity happened, and now that the people are in no real danger since the Garleans were repelled, her presence isn't ... 'needed' anymore and she's losing power because of the lack of prayer/whatever in her, which is why we hear from her less and less since our defeat of Ultima Weapon. Perhaps the Echo will begin to fade because of this, and the expansion to come will see us without her blessing of light because of this. That doesn't feel very Final Fantasy though.

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    It's about the Agrius before it fell to Midgardsormr. Did none of you do 2.4 main story?

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    Apparently I need to go watch the cutscenes again because I have no idea what the Agrius is (the giant Garlean battleship from the original opening cutscene?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooke View Post
    It's about the Agrius before it fell to Midgardsormr. Did none of you do 2.4 main story?
    I don't remember much about it except Shiva.

    I remember one brief cutscene showing Midgardosrmr and the lake/Garlean Ship, as for the contents of said cutscene? NEWP.

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    All I remember is the guy from Ishgard tasking Scooby and the gang to keep an eye on Midgardsormr.

    And that the whole thing was just a reason to be in their debt so he could ensure Ishgard would be obligated to help fund the clubhouse in Mor Dhona, implying no one actually thought it was of any real concern.