Another Middle East Crisis, Syrian Special "WMD"

[Outlaw]

It can also be used like "Oh my god". You know, like that dude who taped the boston bombing and was going "oh my god" every 5 seconds?
I dunno why it's so hard for westerners to relate to other people.

It's not hard I just didn't know it could be used in that context.

[Salodin]

Obama giving a conference now. Don't know if it's technically new, but he pretty much is saying Turkey and America both agree that Assad has to go.

And now he's giving Benghazi more attention.

[Day]

Shirley you can't be syrias

[myreality]

http://rt.com/news/syria-rebel-execution-video-392/

Rebels film execution of 11 Syrian soldiers, as Obama continues anti-Assad rhetoric


As a new video is published showing fighters of the Al Qaeda-linked Al-Nusra Front in Syria executing 11 men they say are Bashar Assad’s soldiers, Obama talks to Turkey’s Erdogan, renewing threats of action against the Syrian government.

The video, which was posted on YouTube on Thursday, is believed to have been filmed in the eastern Deir-al Zor province and appears to date from some time in 2012, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a monitoring group with a network of activists in Syria.

The footage shows the commander, his face obscured in a black balaclava, shooting each prisoner in the back of the head as they kneel blindfolded lined up in the sand.

The Islamic militants shout “God is great” each time a man is shot. In some cases the executioner comes back and fires more bullets to make sure they are dead. The Al Nusra Front, which is thought to be behind the footage, has links to Al-Qaeda, and itself has ended up on America’s terrorism list in December 2012.

Rami Abderrahman, the head of the Observatory, told Reuters that the Al Nusra Front has been releasing several videos of their gruesome operations.

The Observatory said that such videos have become increasingly common in Syria’s bloody civil war, which has now claimed 80,000 lives, according to latest UN estimates.

The Nusra video is the second to appear online in the last two days to show executions by fighters who claim links to al-Qaeda.

An image grab taken from a video uploaded on YouTube on May 16, 2013 by user @dirtytrainers

It comes after horrific footage was released on Sunday of a Syrian rebel commander apparently eating one of the lungs of a dead government fighter. Time magazine said they had first seen the footage in April and identified the man as Khaled al-Hamad. Hamad admitted to the magazine that he had mutilated the corpse of the soldier as an act of revenge for allegedly defiling a naked woman and her daughter.

The footage was swiftly condemned by the Syrian opposition.

Nadim Houry of Human Rights Watch told the Guardian that it is “not enough for Syria’s opposition to condemn such behavior or blame it on violence by the government. The opposition forces need to act firmly to stop such abuses.”

But Hamad, who is also known as Abu Sakkar, has also received support amongst the more hardline rebels in Syria. Sakkar’s supporters often make portraits of him with the inscription “We Love You”.


Obama repeats warnings of a ‘military option’

The controversy comes as a joint news conference with Turkish Prime Minster, Tayyip Erdogan, and President Obama was held Thursday. Obama said that the US reserves the right to resort to diplomatic and military options if there is conclusive proof that Assad has used chemical weapons.

"There are a whole range of options that the United States is already engaged in… And I reserve the options of taking additional steps, both diplomatic and military, because those chemical weapons inside of Syria also threaten our security over the long term as well as our allies and friends and neighbors."

US President Barack Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan hold a joint press conference in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, DC, May 16, 2013. (AFP Photo / Saul Loeb)

Erdogan, for his part, added that “ending this bloody process in Syria and meeting the legitimate demands of the people by establishing a new government are two areas where we are in full agreement with the US. We also agree that we have to prevent Syria from becoming an area for terrorist organizations. We also agree that chemical weapons should not be used.”

But Aleksandr Lukashevich, a spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, said Monday that the accusation that the Syrian regime has used chemical weapons could be a sign that public opinion is being prepared for the possibility of military intervention in Syria.

“A lot of reasoning appeared in a number of Arab and other international mass media regarding the use of chemical weapons in the standoff between the government forces and the opposition guerillas,” he warned.

Speaking to Lebanon's Al Mayadeen TV channel Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Moscow will make no “backstage” agreements on Syria in exchange for Western concessions on missile defense or any other disputed issues.

“This is not serious. I think that those who try suggest that indulge in wishful thinking,” Lavrov said in an interview with Lebanon's Al Mayadeen TV channel.

“Everyone knows well that Russia’s stance on a whole range of crucial issues is not opportunistic,” the Russian top diplomat emphasized.

On Wednesday, the UN passed resolution 6a, which has condemned Assad’s regime for re-escalating the Syrian conflict. The document was passed with a vote of 107 to 12, and with 59 abstaining.

The support was far lower than a resolution last august, which condemned Assad for cracking down on dissent. The decline in support is seen as a sign of growing unease at increasing extremism among Syria’s fractious rebels.

Russia voted against this year’s resolution, saying it was "counterproductive and irresponsible" to promote a one-sided resolution when Moscow and Washington are trying to get the Syrian government and opposition to agree to negotiations.

At a meeting in Geneva in June last year the major world powers reached a degree of consent between the positions of Russia and the West who do not often see eye to eye on Syria. They agreed that any future government in Syria could include members of the current regime as well as opposition groups. There was also no specific demand that Assad must step down – something the West has insisted on – and instead an agreement pushed by Russia and China that the future makeup of any Syrian government would be decided by the Syrian people.

[BaneTheBrawler]

civil wars are always brutal. not only is the other side the enemy, but they're also traitors.

[myreality]

civil wars are always brutal. not only is the other side the enemy, but they're also traitors.

Don't forget terrorist, they are also terrorists.

[Dryr]

McCain is in the news repeatedly speaking out about how Obama is making the US look weak...

He shows up as a senior US official in Syria to talk to the rebels, commits US to another war with the implications and eventual retaliations...

[kuronosan]

They're all war-mongerers. Of course they're going to do that.

[Andalusian girls]

McCain is in the news repeatedly speaking out about how Obama is making the US look weak...

He shows up as a senior US official in Syria to talk to the rebels, commits US to another war with the implications and eventual retaliations...

thankfully a lone senator can't commit us to shit

[Ragnus]

So this is what a proxy war looks like huh?

[Edelweiss]

So this is what a proxy war looks like huh?

Cold War simulator?

[mallister]

red line, etc.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-says-assad-...213235208.html

[archibaldcrane]

Obama taking a page out of the Clinton handbook - domestic problems? What domestic problems, we've got some bombs to drop in Serbia Syria!

[ringthree]

The wag the dog argument has and always will be a stunning insult to the work that our national security organizations do to protect the interests of our country. It is a crash political argument with no basis in reality.

[archibaldcrane]

Lol crash

[ringthree]

crass* obviously.

[Andalusian girls]

Obama taking a page out of the Clinton handbook - domestic problems? What domestic problems, we've got some bombs to drop in Serbia Syria!

except we're not dropping bombs

and whatever Clinton's motivations America finally compelling NATO to bomb Serbia into the peace process was a step that, while coming years too late, ended that mad genocidal conflict

i only wish Obama had acted sooner, when the death toll was at 5,000 not 90,000, and prior to the rebels becoming radicalized by continued support from outside fundamentalist Sunni groups (hey Saudi fundraisers whatcha up to). Assad's regime deserves to fall, without equivocation, but should the insurgents now prove victorious it seems likely they will institute a diet-Islamist regime similar to Egypt's whereas had we supported the more moderate and democratic elements of the movement early in the struggle we could have prevented them from becoming marginalized as the better armed and funded Islamist fighters assumed the leadership position as they consistently proved themselves the more effective fighting force

[Tarage]

There was a point where we should have entered and that point has far passed. Entering now makes us look even more like douchebags than we would have if we had just stayed out of it.

[BaneTheBrawler]

except the locals were all "back off bra we got dis"

[notorious bum]