Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 1

[kuronosan]

So after watching Captain America 2 and thinking about it, what if the clairvoyant is (spoiled for CA2 spoiler):

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Zola

Pretty sure this is true.

[Shuichi]

Pretty sure this is true.

Agreed.

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They stated in the movie that Zola reads peoples past to predict their future. And that is exactly what the Clairvoyant does.

[Buffy]

Well, that was...um, significant.

[Necronus]

Well that just happened ....

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uh, Hand clearly is dead .... but isn't she supposed to serve under H.A.M.M.E.R later?

[Kang]

Very good episode today. Can't wait to see the rest of the season.

[nicholai]

Tonight was probably the best of the season, and awesome. Really happy with how Marvel works everything together somehow even with different people doing all these movies/shows. I know the guys running the show at Marvel make a ton of money, but they deserve it for somehow making all this stuff work.

[Necronus]

Well, that was...um, significant.

Hahaha, I love how we posted basically the same reaction

[Delirium]

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[Akiyama]

Well that episode was godlike.

[Myrrh_Quetz]

Fucking Amazing.

That is all

[6souls]

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[Azull]

Show started slow but has been picking up steam the last few weeks. Really excellent last night

Some predictions

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I think the (part) red head lady and her guards are ok. I think they used some SHEILD trickery to install Ward as a double agent. Garrett seemed too surprised when he 'killed' the other agents on the plane so I don't think he has been HYDRA this whole time. Joining them at this point goes against his every intention up to about 3 minutes before but having a double agent would be a great benefit to what is left of SHEILD, including those he wants to protect.

[Necronus]

Show started slow but has been picking up steam the last few weeks. Really excellent last night

Some predictions

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I think the (part) red head lady and her guards are ok. I think they used some SHEILD trickery to install Ward as a double agent. Garrett seemed too surprised when he 'killed' the other agents on the plane so I don't think he has been HYDRA this whole time. Joining them at this point goes against his every intention up to about 3 minutes before but having a double agent would be a great benefit to what is left of SHEILD, including those he wants to protect.

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I completely agree for basically the same reasons. First, they already pulled the Hand is Hydra nowait Hand is SHIELD after all. Now we have Ward is Hydra and later we'll probably see ohwait Ward is SHIELD after all. Second, as I posted earlier, I couldn't see why they'd kill Hand when they may need her for HAMMER later. And Third, and possibly most importantly, Wards allegiance swap is TOO sudden. He didn't turn on Chloe, he killed all those HYDRA agents in the hall, and his actions directly lead to Coulson and May surviving and Fitz not getting kneecapped. If he was HYDRA all along, he'd probably be shot for incompetence.

[Necronus]

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I completely agree for basically the same reasons. First, they already pulled the Hand is Hydra nowait Hand is SHIELD after all. Now we have Ward is Hydra and later we'll probably see ohwait Ward is SHIELD after all. Second, as I posted earlier, I couldn't see why they'd kill Hand when they may need her for HAMMER later. And Third, and possibly most importantly, Wards allegiance swap is TOO sudden. He didn't turn on Chloe, he killed all those HYDRA agents in the hall, and his actions directly lead to Coulson and May surviving and Fitz not getting kneecapped. If he was HYDRA all along, he'd probably be shot for incompetence.

Opps, I replied to myself when I meant to edit... oh well.

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Just searched Google for opinions or clues I may have missed that lends to one theory or another and I found this interview from today.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Agents-S...t-1080215.aspx

Important part being

If people were to go back and watch past episodes, what breadcrumbs would they now spot knowing that Ward was actually a bad guy the whole time?
Bell: In upcoming episodes, we'll get into the agenda of why he was on the team. There's a very specific reason that he's there. In terms of Ward making himself invisible, Coulson loves projects. He likes to take people and fix them up. Ward was a project. Who was the biggest threat on the plane? Who could do the worst damage to him? May [Ming-Na Wen]. He seduced her and slept with her. Who was the unknown on the plane? Skye [Chloe Bennet]. He became her S.O. How do you endure yourself to a team? You do something selfless. He jumped out of the plane after Simmons [Elizabeth Henstridge]. If he had failed to save Simmons, he'd be OK. He had a parachute. But he did all these things along the way to neutralize or take the stink off or to bring people to his side in each of those instances. Those are just some of the examples. There was a method to the madness.
Loeb: Take a look at Episodes 6, 7 and 8. In Episode 6, he jumps out of a plane and saves Simmons. So he's now endeared himself to everybody there, but the one person he's not endeared himself to is Fitz (Iain De Caestecker). How are you going to fix that? Well, you go on a mission with Fitz and make Fitz feel like he's the hero of the story. Now, all of a sudden, the one guy who didn't like you likes you more than he ever did. Now there's a bromance going on. Then he gets a hold of the berserker staff and we see a very, very dark side of this guy. But, fortunately, it's not something that you hold onto very hard. When he winds up in bed with Lorelei (Elena Satine) and she talks about how different he is, again, those were little things along the way that hopefully when people and go back and look, they'll do, "Wow, it really was there."
Bell: Before you flip somebody, before you do something different with them, you have to get the audience to know them. Because we were on network, we brought Skye on as a civilian. She comes in with our audience who might not know the Marvel world. We grow her out, she becomes a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. The idea is to bring the audience along with her so just as she's feeling part of the team, it all gets blown up.

That sure does sound like a really good explanation as to him actually remaining a villain, but hey, its not like show creators would argue anything but until a future twist moment reversing this position.

[Katlan]

I need to see capt 2 first before I can watch this weeks episode! Planning on Saturday!

[Scythiroth]

So, definitely don't watch this week's episode before seeing Captain America 2? Saw someone mention that earlier but just wanted to confirm. =x Definitely seeing Captain America 2 this weekend though. >.>

[Azull]

I don't think there are any real spoilers unless you have managed to not watch any trailers of Capt America.

[kuronosan]

That's a total lie. Don't watch this episode or future ones until you see Captain America. It will all make sense (and ruins the movie if you do) in the end.

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Saw Ward's turn from a mile away.

[Vagrant]

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I completely agree for basically the same reasons. First, they already pulled the Hand is Hydra nowait Hand is SHIELD after all. Now we have Ward is Hydra and later we'll probably see ohwait Ward is SHIELD after all. Second, as I posted earlier, I couldn't see why they'd kill Hand when they may need her for HAMMER later. And Third, and possibly most importantly, Wards allegiance swap is TOO sudden. He didn't turn on Chloe, he killed all those HYDRA agents in the hall, and his actions directly lead to Coulson and May surviving and Fitz not getting kneecapped. If he was HYDRA all along, he'd probably be shot for incompetence.

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No guarantee they will ever use HAMMMER. It was started by Osborn after all and they don't have him in their Marvel universe as he's over in Sony's Spiderverse.

[Necronus]

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No guarantee they will ever use HAMMMER. It was started by Osborn after all and they don't have him in their Marvel universe as he's over in Sony's Spiderverse.

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True ... but I figure A) Why kill her in case you ever get Osborn back B) You can maybe still have a non-Osborn Iron Patriot / Dark Avengers in the movie universe. Can even lead into Siege to give the Thor movies some non-boring content for once. Also I guess I should also ask what's the status of Bullseye in terms of movie rights for Dark Avengers related content?

Remember, they have a 15 year plan, so I figure Civil War (sans X-Men and Spidey), Dark Avengers (sans Osborn), Siege, and other stuff can all fit in that time frame.