The MMA Thread of 2013 - Carlos Newton took Tyven's pants off

**Plow** · 2013-05-12 20:01

correct me if I'm wrong but isn't BJJ belt grading almost entirely based on competition success?

i.e. just competing with it at a ufc level pretty much makes you a black belt by default?

**Rhyis.** · 2013-05-12 20:03

My nigga Pat Barry. BJJ black belt by default. Count me in.

**AidenCarby** · 2013-05-12 20:22

Originally Posted by Plow

correct me if I'm wrong but isn't BJJ belt grading almost entirely based on competition success?

i.e. just competing with it at a ufc level pretty much makes you a black belt by default?

No...just no

**Plow** · 2013-05-12 20:27

a quick wiki says:

Some distinct differences have become synonymous with the art, such as a marked informality in promotional criteria, a focus on a competitive demonstration of skill, and a conservative approach to promotion.

with that last part coming into play only in terms of higher degree black belts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazili...ranking_system

this is wrong?

**AidenCarby** · 2013-05-12 20:29

You're plowing again, cut it out.

**Plow** · 2013-05-12 20:34

feel free to answer, or accuse me of "plowing" if you have no answer and want to feel better about yourself

I mean, if you think I'm implying that kickboxing in the ufc makes you a bjj black belt, that's entirely a reading comprehension issue.

**AidenCarby** · 2013-05-12 20:35

Explain the thousands of black belts on this planet with multiple degrees who haven't competed then.

**Rhyis.** · 2013-05-12 20:37

Plow, shut the fuck up.

**tyven** · 2013-05-12 20:37

Belts are awarded by instructors. Competing in the ufc does not make you a black belt. Competing in adcc does not make you a black belt. Fighting black belts doesn't make you a black belt.

**AidenCarby** · 2013-05-12 20:37

Does he sometimes get people promoted when they advertise their school/academy when they fight/compete and do well? Sure, that's up to the owners discretion, but it being "almost entirely" based on competition is by far one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

**Plow** · 2013-05-12 20:38

Originally Posted by AidenCarby

Explain the thousands of black belts on this planet with multiple degrees who haven't competed then.

Few published guidelines or standards determine when a practitioner is ready for promotion; the criterion is generally determined by individual instructors and/or academies.

^

also

Students are generally encouraged to compete, as this can help her or him gain experience. Competition allows instructors to gauge students' abilities while grappling with a fully resisting opponent, and it is common for a promotion to follow a good competition performance. In most academies, competing is not essential for promotion, but in a minority of schools, competing is not only endorsed but is required.

I'm really not trying to prove myself right here; I asked a question, you guys apparently want it to be an internet argument rather than give a legit answer.

**tyven** · 2013-05-12 20:40

Don't think anyone wanted an internet argument think it was just funny/surprising that you suggested fighting in UFC makes a competitor a black belt by default

**Plow** · 2013-05-12 20:41

Originally Posted by tyven

Belts are awarded by instructors. Competing in the ufc does not make you a black belt. Competing in adcc does not make you a black belt. Fighting black belts doesn't make you a black belt.

right, I was simply under the impression that in general, if you can successfully use BJJ at a level required to compete successfully with the best in the world, you were pretty much going to be considered a black belt

I'm no martial arts expert, literally just going here off what I've always heard about its ranking system, which is that it's much, much more competition oriented than most.

**tyven** · 2013-05-12 20:46

There's prob a handful of grapplers so talented that they would be considered a black belt, Barnett as mentioned before, maybe matt Hughes but they are always the exception. The pure strikers and black wrestlers with no bjj are way more common

**AidenCarby** · 2013-05-12 20:49

correct me if I'm wrong but isn't BJJ belt grading almost entirely based on competition success?

Few published guidelines or standards determine when a practitioner is ready for promotion; the criterion is generally determined by individual instructors and/or academies.

In most academies, competing is not essential for promotion, but in a minority of schools, competing is not only endorsed but is required.

**Rhyis.** · 2013-05-12 20:53

**Plow** · 2013-05-12 21:19

Originally Posted by AidenCarby

you just called me dense by assuming I had read the wiki on the subject *BEFORE* I asked the question about it

you're a bright one, aren't you

seriously, though, who else but me could ask a fucking question, literally preface it with "correct me if I'm wrong," and get a page full of retarded monkeys flinging shit and one legit response

**Rhyis.** · 2013-05-12 21:23

A real question doesn't answer itself with wiki and tell people they're wrong based on that wiki. And in even more fun, the wiki he quotes says why he's wrong.

If you want to ask a question, ask a fucking question. But don't play your shit off like it wasn't loaded with bullshit behind it.

**Rhyis.** · 2013-05-12 21:27

Yo dawgs, hows the weather? Sunny? Well wiki says it's gonna be cloudy. Oh it turns it was sunny. Yo dawgs, why you telling me off? It was just a question.

**Dimmauk** · 2013-05-12 21:29

Originally Posted by Plow

correct me if I'm wrong but isn't BJJ belt grading almost entirely based on competition success?

i.e. just competing with it at a ufc level pretty much makes you a black belt by default?

LOL

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