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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    Actually that was just EA being douchebags. They wanted to be the only company allowed to make sports games [...] knowing full well sega had spent millions buying VC (nfl2k etc) with the intention of it being the backbone of the dreamcast market.
    This is correct.

    If anyone wishes to read more about the history of SEGA, here's one of the most accurate accounts you'll find that isn't inundated with details. I can confidently vouch for its accuracy, as the writer is a personal friend of mine, and we are both incredibly anal when it comes to correctness. That, and we're about as nerdy about SEGA as one can possibly be.

    (In fact, I wonder if he even knows that they mismatched that picture of JSRF Beat with the domestic JGR logo. I think I'll head over to Facebook and make fun of him for that.)

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    I was under the impression that Windows CE enabled players to pirate more easily for the system and that's what killed it. Insert Microsoft developing Xbox at the same time conspiracy theory here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xopher View Post
    Insert Microsoft developing Xbox at the same time conspiracy theory here.
    It's not a conspiracy. It's perfectly logical, and nothing Microsoft hadn't done before. If you know the history of Windows, you know that's the case. If you know the history of Sony's console development, you also know that it isn't the first time a company did something similar.

    Beyond that, although pirating on the Dreamcast was easy for anyone relatively technical (and in possession of a CD burner), such knowledge was by no means mainstream in 1999. Practically everyone you encountered at a game store may have said they did it, but they were and still are a minority in the consumer market.

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    bloody wolf, bonk, blazing lazers! I loved all of those games!

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    Yeah I'm just saying the embedded Windows CE is what enabled people to create bootloaders.

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    I just remember the Dreamcast controller being an xbox version of the N64 in the worst way possible.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_Wheel22 View Post
    I just remember the Dreamcast controller being an xbox version of the N64 in the worst way possible.
    Considering that the Xbox came out two years later, I suppose that your exposure to the console was a bit late.

    Also, that's (time warp aside) not where the origins of its design came from, and its predecessor domestically pre-dates the N64, too.



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    All this garbage video game junk from 20+ years ago bores me


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz View Post
    video game junk from 20+ years ago
    Seventeen (NiGHTS) and fifteen (Dreamcast), actually.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    Actually that was just EA being douchebags. They wanted to be the only company allowed to make sports games for the first 5 years, knowing full well sega had spent millions buying VC (nfl2k etc) with the intention of it being the backbone of the dreamcast market.
    EA refused to support the Dreamcast because of the Saturn's poor sales. Since SEGA did not have an annual Madden game to boost sales, they created the 2K series to make up for it. There were several other factors as well. The Playstation 2 had come out only a year or two after the Dreamcast, and with DVD playback, superior graphics, as well as the potential for online play, more people spent the extra money and went with the Playstation 2. Even though SEGA is a huge brand, it was next to nothing when you compare it to a longstanding powerhouse like Sony. There was also that *tiny* piracy issue that essentially let you slap any game you downloaded on to a standard CD and it would run perfectly. In a nutshell: Lack of support from EA and other small developers, rampant piracy, fuggin' Sony, and Sega was already in a lot of financial trouble at the time of the Dreamcast release as well; which is a crying shame because the Dreamcase is one of my favorite systems.





    One of my favorite football games of all time.


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    I thoroughly enjoyed my Dreamcast but I didn't have many games on it. NFL2K, Deadly Skies, Crazy Taxi, PSO, NFL Blitz, and:




    I honestly think a lot of the problem was that SEGA spent a ton of money in the early 90s advertising about why Genesis was so much better but by the time Sony came around and they had suffered their Saturn debacle they weren't in a great place.

    Annnnnnd the first Sonic that came out on Dreamcast was Superman64 levels of shit.

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    Considering Dreamcast had Shenmue 1/2 and Sonic Adventure 1... That's enough to make it the greatest console alone.

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    fuck, going to d/l Keith Courage and beat it. Never got to buy this sysstem, only got to play at RAdio Shack. Lol.

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    The only games I played on Dreamcast were Sonic Adventure 1 and Crazy Taxi. Played a lot of Sega Genesis though. Grew up on it.

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