Item Search
     
BG-Wiki Search
+ Reply to Thread
Page 229 of 269 FirstFirst ... 179 219 227 228 229 230 231 239 ... LastLast
Results 4561 to 4580 of 5380

Thread: Delve     submit to reddit submit to twitter

  1. #4561
    Impossiblu
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    10,364
    BG Level
    9
    FFXIV Character
    Prothescar Centursa
    FFXIV Server
    Balmung
    FFXI Server
    Valefor

    sounds like 2 mura SAMs and 2 RNGs or so should be enough for that last 25% then?

  2. #4562
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    664
    BG Level
    5
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    Spoiler: show
    PHP Code:
    Damage Summary
    Player               Total Dmg   Damage 
    %   Melee Dmg   Range Dmg   AbilDmg  WSkill Dmg   Spell Dmg  Other Dmg   Absorbed Dmg
    Failacious                 175     0.02 
    %           0           0           0           0         175          0              0
    Hellknight               95387    11.48 
    %       54885           0           0       40502           0          0              0
    Legendhealerr           189974    22.86 
    %           0       71558       31672       86744           0          0              0
    Lithdrae                 69069     8.31 
    %           5       38532        5064       25468           0          0              0
    Llewelyn                100567    12.10 
    %       30641           0           0       69926           0          0              0
    Oswin                   108088    13.01 
    %       31451           0        4155       72482           0          0              0
    Panzerblitz               1016     0.12 
    %           0         205         811           0           0          0              0
    Squah                   181036    21.78 
    %          46       49210       64152       67628           0          0              0
    Tenseiga                   431     0.05 
    %           0           0           0           0         431          0              0
    Vaegon                     122     0.01 
    %           0           0         122           0           0          0              0
    Vasch                    66866     8.05 
    %         670       29866        5048       31282           0          0              0
    Nanaja                     404     0.05 
    %         130           0         274           0           0          0              0
    SC
    Distortion            3416     0.41 %           0           0           0           0           0          0              0
    SC
    Light                14489     1.74 %           0           0           0           0           0          0              0
    SC
    Reverberation            6     0.00 %           0           0           0           0           0          0              0
    Total                   831046   100.00 
    %      117828      189371      111298      394032         606          0              0


    Melee Damage
    Player            Melee Dmg  Abs
    'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss    M.HR %   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi  M+0.Avg  M-0.Avg
    Hellknight            54885          0     54885   57.54 %     305/19   94.14 %   94.14 %    17/369   161.09   161.09
    Legendhealerr             0          0         0    0.00 %        0/2    0.00 %    0.00 %       0/0     0.00     0.00
    Lithdrae                  5          0         5    0.01 %        1/4   20.00 %   20.00 %       5/5     5.00     5.00
    Llewelyn              30641          0     30641   30.47 %     142/13   91.61 %   91.61 %    26/476   203.23   203.23
    Oswin                 31451          0     31451   29.10 %     138/13   91.39 %   91.39 %    60/490   221.55   221.55
    Squah                    46          0        46    0.03 %        1/1   50.00 %   50.00 %     46/46    46.00    46.00
    Vasch                   670          0       670    1.00 %        4/5   44.44 %   44.44 %     0/189   189.00   189.00
    Nanaja                  130          0       130   32.18 %       5/12   29.41 %   29.41 %     21/39    26.00    26.00


    Melee Crit Damage
    Player                #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C-0.Avg     Crit%
    Hellknight               69    24/433    244.45   22.62 %
    Legendhealerr             0       0/0      0.00    0.00 %
    Lithdrae                  0       0/0      0.00    0.00 %
    Llewelyn                  9    65/567    401.33    6.34 %
    Oswin                    19   124/665    267.74   13.77 %
    Squah                     0       0/0      0.00    0.00 %
    Vasch                     3    66/336    160.33   75.00 %
    Nanaja                    0       0/0      0.00    0.00 %


    Ranged Damage
    Player            Range Dmg   Range %   Hit/Miss    R.HR %   R.Acc %  R.Low/Hi  R+0.Avg  R-0.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C-0.Avg     Crit%
    Legendhealerr         71558   37.67 %       39/6   86.67 %   86.67 %       0/0  1800.29  1800.29      5 1687/2878   2069.60   12.82 %
    Lithdrae              38532   55.79 %       39/3   92.86 %   92.86 %       0/0   869.00   869.00      8  757/2529   1449.13   20.51 %
    Panzerblitz             205   20.18 %       1/25    3.85 %    3.85 %       0/0   205.00   205.00      0   205/205      0.00    0.00 %
    Squah                 49210   27.18 %       34/1   97.14 %   97.14 %       0/0  1147.96  1147.96      8 1681/5018   2420.38   23.53 %
    Vaegon                    0    0.00 %        0/8    0.00 %    0.00 %       0/0     0.00     0.00      0       0/0      0.00    0.00 %
    Vasch                 29866   44.67 %       27/5   84.38 %   84.38 %       0/0  1091.38  1091.38      6  844/1618   1157.83   22.22 %


    Weaponskill Damage
    Player                 WSkill Dmg  Abs'
    d.Dmg   Net Dmg   WSkill %  Hit/Miss   WS.Acc %   WS.Low/Hi   WS.Avg
    Hellknight                  40502          0     40502    42.46 
    %      21/0   100.00 %    571/4136  1928.67
     
    Shijin Spiral            40502          0     40502   100.00 %      21/0   100.00 %    571/4136  1928.67
    Legendhealerr               86744          0     86744    45.66 
    %      11/0   100.00 %  5434/11296  7885.82
     
    Coronach                 81061          0     81061    93.45 %      10/0   100.00 %  5434/11296  8106.10
     
    Last Stand                5683          0      5683     6.55 %       1/0   100.00 %   5683/5683  5683.00
    Lithdrae                    25468          0     25468    36.87 
    %       6/0   100.00 %   2885/6507  4244.67
     
    Namas Arrow              25468          0     25468   100.00 %       6/0   100.00 %   2885/6507  4244.67
    Llewelyn                    69926          0     69926    69.53 
    %      37/0   100.00 %    330/3381  1889.89
     
    TachiShoha             69926          0     69926   100.00 %      37/0   100.00 %    330/3381  1889.89
    Oswin                       72482          0     72482    67.06 
    %      27/0   100.00 %    666/6078  2684.52
     
    Drakesbane               72482          0     72482   100.00 %      27/0   100.00 %    666/6078  2684.52
    Panzerblitz                     0          0         0     0.00 
    %       0/1     0.00 %         0/0     0.00
     
    Last Stand                   0          0         0     0.00 %       0/1     0.00 %         0/0     0.00
    Squah                       67628          0     67628    37.36 
    %      10/0   100.00 %   5404/9993  6762.80
     
    Coronach                 31945          0     31945    47.24 %       4/0   100.00 %   5965/9993  7986.25
     
    Last Stand               35683          0     35683    52.76 %       6/0   100.00 %   5404/7119  5947.17
    Vasch                       31282          0     31282    46.78 
    %       7/0   100.00 %   1562/8908  4468.86
     
    Last Stand               31282          0     31282   100.00 %       7/0   100.00 %   1562/8908  4468.86


    Ability Damage
    Player                  Abil
    Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg    Abil. %  Hit/Miss    A.Acc %    A.Low/Hi    A.Avg
    Legendhealerr               31672          0     31672    16.67 %       3/0   100.00 %  6454/16231 10557.33
     - Barrage                  25218          0     25218    79.62 %       2/0   100.00 %  8987/16231 12609.00
     - Eagle Eye Shot            6454          0      6454    20.38 %       1/0   100.00 %   6454/6454  6454.00
    Lithdrae                     5064          0      5064     7.33 %       2/0   100.00 %   2007/3057  2532.00
     - Barrage                   2007          0      2007    39.63 %       1/0   100.00 %   2007/2007  2007.00
     - Eagle Eye Shot            3057          0      3057    60.37 %       1/0   100.00 %   3057/3057  3057.00
    Oswin                        4155          0      4155     3.84 %       7/1    87.50 %     90/1653   593.57
     - Jump                       573          0       573    13.79 %       1/0   100.00 %     573/573   573.00
     - Soul Jump                 2208          0      2208    53.14 %       2/0   100.00 %    555/1653  1104.00
     - Spirit Jump               1374          0      1374    33.07 %       4/1    80.00 %      90/626   343.50
    Panzerblitz                   811          0       811    79.82 %       6/0   100.00 %      18/254   135.17
     - Thunder Shot               811          0       811   100.00 %       6/0   100.00 %      18/254   135.17
    Squah                       64152          0     64152    35.44 %       4/0   100.00 %   885/37388 16038.00
     - Barrage                  38273          0     38273    59.66 %       2/0   100.00 %   885/37388 19136.50
     - Eagle Eye Shot           25879          0     25879    40.34 %       2/0   100.00 % 12024/13855 12939.50
    Vaegon                        122          0       122   100.00 %       2/0   100.00 %       61/61    61.00
     - Thunder Shot               122          0       122   100.00 %       2/0   100.00 %       61/61    61.00
    Vasch                        5048          0      5048     7.55 %       3/0   100.00 %    881/3119  1682.67
     - Barrage                   1929          0      1929    38.21 %       2/0   100.00 %    881/1048   964.50
     - Eagle Eye Shot            3119          0      3119    61.79 %       1/0   100.00 %   3119/3119  3119.00
    Nanaja                        274          0       274    67.82 %       9/0   100.00 %       19/72    30.44
     - Flame Breath               274          0       274   100.00 %       9/0   100.00 %       19/72    30.44


    Spell Damage
    Player                  Spell Dmg  Abs'
    d.Dmg   Net Dmg   Spell %  #Spells  #Fail  S.Low/Hi     S.Avg  #MBurst
    Failacious                    175          0       175  100.00 %        1      0   175/175    175.00        0
     
    Impact                     175          0       175  100.00 %        1      0   175/175    175.00        0
    Panzerblitz                     0          0         0    0.00 
    %        1      0       0/0      0.00        0
     
    Dia II                       0          0         0    0.00 %        1      0       0/0      0.00        0
    Reaper                          0          0         0    0.00 
    %        7      0       0/0      0.00        1
     
    Dia                          0          0         0    0.00 %        7      0       0/0      0.00        1
    Tenseiga                      431          0       431  100.00 
    %        2      0     0/431    215.50        0
     
    Dia II                       0          0         0    0.00 %        1      0       0/0      0.00        0
     
    Impact                     431          0       431  100.00 %        1      0   431/431    431.00        0


    Skillchain Damage
    Skillchain          SC Dmg  Abs
    'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   # SC  SC.Low/Hi  SC.Avg
    SC: Distortion        3416          0      3416      1  3416/3416 3416.00
    SC: Light            14489          0     14489     18    29/9884  804.94
    SC: Reverberation        6          0         6      1        6/6    6.00 


    Oyay, it worked. Sweet. A few people asked so there's the raw data from Muyingwa.
    Legend is a 99gun + Achiyalabopa Bullets
    I had 90 gun and Achiyalabopa Bullets
    Vasch was a 75 gun with Damascus Bullets (he ran out of Adlivun lol)
    Lithdrae was a 99 Yoichi with Achiyalabopa Arrows
    Hellknight Oatixur MNK
    Llewelyn Tsuru/Murasamemaru SAM
    Oswin Ryuno99 DRG

  3. #4563
    Impossiblu
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    10,364
    BG Level
    9
    FFXIV Character
    Prothescar Centursa
    FFXIV Server
    Balmung
    FFXI Server
    Valefor

    Are we sure Mura bypasses DT? Seems like he parsed really low with that taken into consideration, and I know Llew is a top tier SAM

  4. #4564
    D. Ring
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    4,529
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Phoenix

    Yeah, shoha average leads me to believe it doesn't? I just know a group downed it without rng and used mura sam as primary damage under 25, assumed it was a full bypass. Unless he forgot to use mura for whatever reason that is.

  5. #4565
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    664
    BG Level
    5
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    Smooth, unrushed fight. Killed with 4+ minutes left in zone. 4:24 fight duration. Setup same as before, 4 RNG/COR/BRD and MNK/SAM/DRG/COR/BRD/WHM.
    Changes:
    Oswin now has Upukirex
    Legend forgot to eat food for half the fight
    Vasch/Stani have 90 gun with Achiyalabopa Bullets
    Llewelyn said he used his Mura at around 25-20%
    2/2 on the night with the first clear literally coming less than a second before zoneout.

    Spoiler: show
    PHP Code:
    Damage Summary
    Player               Total Dmg   Damage 
    %   Melee Dmg   Range Dmg   AbilDmg  WSkill Dmg   Spell Dmg  Other Dmg   Absorbed Dmg
    Failacious                 186     0.02 
    %           0           0           0           0         186          0              0
    Hellknight               74475     9.05 
    %       46034           0           0       28441           0          0              0
    Kyaaadaa                   180     0.02 
    %           0           0           0           0         180          0              0
    Legendhealerr           144759    17.60 
    %           0       49221       33679       61859           0          0              0
    Llewelyn                 84868    10.32 
    %       24242           0           0       60626           0          0              0
    Oswin                   105503    12.83 
    %       31994           0        5510       67999           0          0              0
    Panzerblitz              25577     3.11 
    %          25        8344        1058       16150           0          0              0
    Shortness                  590     0.07 
    %           0           0           0           0         590          0              0
    Squah                   157120    19.10 
    %           0       61433       34019       61668           0          0              0
    Stani                   104946    12.76 
    %           0       42218       15405       47323           0          0              0
    Vaegon                     643     0.08 
    %           0         643           0           0           0          0              0
    Vasch                   113983    13.86 
    %           0       46823       26704       40456           0          0              0
    Nanaja                    2383     0.29 
    %         174           0        2209           0           0          0              0
    SC
    Fragmentation          999     0.12 %           0           0           0           0           0          0              0
    SC
    Gravitation             74     0.01 %           0           0           0           0           0          0              0
    SC
    Light                 6269     0.76 %           0           0           0           0           0          0              0
    SC
    Transfixion              7     0.00 %           0           0           0           0           0          0              0
    Total                   822562   100.00 
    %      102469      208682      118584      384522         956          0              0


    Melee Damage
    Player            Melee Dmg  Abs
    'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss    M.HR %   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi  M+0.Avg  M-0.Avg
    Hellknight            46034          0     46034   61.81 %     278/13   95.53 %   95.53 %    10/368   141.90   141.90
    Legendhealerr             0          0         0    0.00 %        0/1    0.00 %    0.00 %       0/0     0.00     0.00
    Llewelyn              24242          0     24242   28.56 %     123/17   87.86 %   87.86 %    19/483   181.84   181.84
    Oswin                 31994          0     31994   30.33 %      96/12   88.89 %   88.89 %     0/780   292.28   292.28
    Panzerblitz              25          0        25    0.10 %        1/0  100.00 %  100.00 %     25/25    25.00    25.00
    Nanaja                  174          0       174    7.30 %        2/5   28.57 %   28.57 %     55/55    55.00    55.00


    Melee Crit Damage
    Player                #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C-0.Avg     Crit%
    Hellknight               72    54/434    233.38   25.90 %
    Legendhealerr             0       0/0      0.00    0.00 %
    Llewelyn                 15    48/548    306.87   12.20 %
    Oswin                    13   175/977    595.00   13.54 %
    Panzerblitz               0       0/0      0.00    0.00 %
    Nanaja                    1   119/119    119.00   50.00 %


    Ranged Damage
    Player            Range Dmg   Range %   Hit/Miss    R.HR %   R.Acc %  R.Low/Hi  R+0.Avg  R-0.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C-0.Avg     Crit%
    Legendhealerr         49221   34.00 %       32/8   80.00 %   80.00 %       0/0  1291.74  1291.74      9  913/3982   2167.89   28.13 %
    Panzerblitz            8344   32.62 %       26/7   78.79 %   78.79 %       0/0   318.60   318.60      6   163/487    328.67   23.08 %
    Squah                 61433   39.10 %       40/1   97.56 %   97.56 %       0/0  1130.17  1130.17     10    0/1771   2752.80   25.00 %
    Stani                 42218   40.23 %       33/9   78.57 %   78.57 %       0/0   955.12   955.12      8  887/7275   2292.50   24.24 %
    Vaegon                  643  100.00 %        1/5   16.67 %   16.67 %       0/0   643.00   643.00      0   643/643      0.00    0.00 %
    Vasch                 46823   41.08 %       40/5   88.89 %   88.89 %       0/0  1049.47  1049.47      8  851/3178   1655.00   20.00 %


    Weaponskill Damage
    Player                 WSkill Dmg  Abs'
    d.Dmg   Net Dmg   WSkill %  Hit/Miss   WS.Acc %   WS.Low/Hi   WS.Avg
    Hellknight                  28441          0     28441    38.19 
    %      16/0   100.00 %    377/3719  1777.56
     
    Shijin Spiral            28441          0     28441   100.00 %      16/0   100.00 %    377/3719  1777.56
    Legendhealerr               61859          0     61859    42.73 
    %       9/1    90.00 %  2958/11044  6873.22
     
    Coronach                 61859          0     61859   100.00 %       9/1    90.00 %  2958/11044  6873.22
    Llewelyn                    60626          0     60626    71.44 
    %      33/2    94.29 %    459/2976  1837.15
     
    TachiShoha             60626          0     60626   100.00 %      33/2    94.29 %    459/2976  1837.15
    Oswin                       67999          0     67999    64.45 
    %      26/0   100.00 %    334/5418  2615.35
     
    Drakesbane                2634          0      2634     3.87 %       1/0   100.00 %   2634/2634  2634.00
     
    Stardiver                65365          0     65365    96.13 %      25/0   100.00 %    334/5418  2614.60
    Panzerblitz                 16150          0     16150    63.14 
    %       6/0   100.00 %    802/4727  2691.67
     
    Last Stand               16150          0     16150   100.00 %       6/0   100.00 %    802/4727  2691.67
    Squah                       61668          0     61668    39.25 
    %      11/0   100.00 %   2657/9144  5606.18
     
    Coronach                 52524          0     52524    85.17 %      10/0   100.00 %   2657/9131  5252.40
     
    Last Stand                9144          0      9144    14.83 %       1/0   100.00 %   9144/9144  9144.00
    Stani                       47323          0     47323    45.09 
    %       9/0   100.00 %   1668/8783  5258.11
     
    Coronach                 27252          0     27252    57.59 %       4/0   100.00 %   3151/8783  6813.00
     
    Last Stand               20071          0     20071    42.41 %       5/0   100.00 %   1668/6388  4014.20
    Vaegon                          0          0         0     0.00 
    %       0/1     0.00 %         0/0     0.00
     
    Last Stand                   0          0         0     0.00 %       0/1     0.00 %         0/0     0.00
    Vasch                       40456          0     40456    35.49 
    %       8/0   100.00 %   2542/9166  5057.00
     
    Coronach                 40456          0     40456   100.00 %       8/0   100.00 %   2542/9166  5057.00


    Ability Damage
    Player                  Abil
    Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg    Abil. %  Hit/Miss    A.Acc %    A.Low/Hi    A.Avg
    Legendhealerr               33679          0     33679    23.27 %       4/0   100.00 %  1961/15546  8419.75
     - Barrage                  17507          0     17507    51.98 %       2/0   100.00 %  1961/15546  8753.50
     - Eagle Eye Shot           16172          0     16172    48.02 %       2/0   100.00 %   6257/9915  8086.00
    Oswin                        5510          0      5510     5.22 %       7/1    87.50 %    142/2192   787.14
     - Jump                       379          0       379     6.88 %       1/0   100.00 %     379/379   379.00
     - Soul Jump                 1448          0      1448    26.28 %       2/1    66.67 %    329/1119   724.00
     - Spirit Jump               3683          0      3683    66.84 %       4/0   100.00 %    142/2192   920.75
    Panzerblitz                  1058          0      1058     4.14 %       5/0   100.00 %     169/254   211.60
     - Thunder Shot              1058          0      1058   100.00 %       5/0   100.00 %     169/254   211.60
    Squah                       34019          0     34019    21.65 %       4/0   100.00 %  4727/11700  8504.75
     - Barrage                  14835          0     14835    43.61 %       2/0   100.00 %  4727/10108  7417.50
     - Eagle Eye Shot           19184          0     19184    56.39 %       2/0   100.00 %  7484/11700  9592.00
    Stani                       15405          0     15405    14.68 %       4/0   100.00 %   2714/5246  3851.25
     - Barrage                   7445          0      7445    48.33 %       2/0   100.00 %   2797/4648  3722.50
     - Eagle Eye Shot            7960          0      7960    51.67 %       2/0   100.00 %   2714/5246  3980.00
    Vasch                       26704          0     26704    23.43 %       3/0   100.00 %  2586/14398  8901.33
     - Barrage                   9720          0      9720    36.40 %       1/0   100.00 %   9720/9720  9720.00
     - Eagle Eye Shot           16984          0     16984    63.60 %       2/0   100.00 %  2586/14398  8492.00
    Nanaja                       2209          0      2209    92.70 %      11/0   100.00 %      35/282   200.82
     - Flame Breath              2209          0      2209   100.00 %      11/0   100.00 %      35/282   200.82


    Spell Damage
    Player                  Spell Dmg  Abs'
    d.Dmg   Net Dmg   Spell %  #Spells  #Fail  S.Low/Hi     S.Avg  #MBurst
    Failacious                    186          0       186  100.00 %        1      0   186/186    186.00        0
     
    Impact                     186          0       186  100.00 %        1      0   186/186    186.00        0
    Kyaaadaa                      180          0       180  100.00 
    %        1      0   180/180    180.00        0
     
    Thunder IV                 180          0       180  100.00 %        1      0   180/180    180.00        0
    Lithdrae                        0          0         0    0.00 
    %        6      0       0/0      0.00        1
     
    Dia                          0          0         0    0.00 %        5      0       0/0      0.00        0
     
    Dia II                       0          0         0    0.00 %        1      0       0/0      0.00        1
    Panzerblitz                     0          0         0    0.00 
    %        1      0       0/0      0.00        0
     
    Dia II                       0          0         0    0.00 %        1      0       0/0      0.00        0
    Shortness                     590          0       590  100.00 
    %        1      0   590/590    590.00        0
     
    Impact                     590          0       590  100.00 %        1      0   590/590    590.00        0


    Skillchain Damage
    Skillchain          SC Dmg  Abs
    'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   # SC  SC.Low/Hi  SC.Avg
    SC: Fragmentation      999          0       999      5     21/361  199.80
    SC: Gravitation         74          0        74      2      10/64   37.00
    SC: Light             6269          0      6269     11    32/3644  569.91
    SC: Transfixion          7          0         7      1        7/7    7.00 


    Oh, and fucking hats.
    Spoiler: show

  6. #4566
    Black Belt
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    5,668
    BG Level
    8
    FFXIV Character
    Arthars Menethil
    FFXIV Server
    Chocobo
    FFXI Server
    Odin

    rng is definately the best. nothing to cure and good dmg throughout.

    the only downside is rng will kill the NMs enroute to muyingwa slower but killing muyingwa faster evens out everything.

    The pug i went with had no rng and we reached boss with 13 mins remaining and finished with 3 mins remaining... so yea... it kinda same in the end :X

    it still isnt "bad" on hitting brick wall with melee setup, as long you have time, you will still win.

    also to support others testimony, mastop can die in a fire

  7. #4567
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    664
    BG Level
    5
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    NM Fight times if anyone is curious:
    Scorp 4:48
    Chapuli 4:29
    Twitherym 4:23
    Mastop 5:04
    Tax'et 5:40ish
    Muyingwa 4:24

  8. #4568
    E. Body
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,272
    BG Level
    7
    FFXIV Character
    Okiru Sasayake
    FFXIV Server
    Sargatanas
    FFXI Server
    Gilgamesh

    Quote Originally Posted by Squah View Post
    NM Fight times if anyone is curious:
    Scorp 4:48
    Chapuli 4:29
    Twitherym 4:23
    Mastop 5:04
    Tax'et 5:40ish
    Muyingwa 4:24
    Curious how you got Mastop that low time-wise with all the RNGs (someone using Armageddon I think was mentioned, although I think our MNK didn't formless for a bit); ours was in the 7 min region, but we picked up some time on Twitherym and Muyingwa. We killed Muyingwa in just under 4 minutes with that setup and had ~2 minutes left in zone at that point. Once we get more comfortable with it, I'm sure we'll shave down times and have a much larger cushion for clearing as it's really not that hard. We went 1/1 with the same setup; it's really all about the scorpion.

  9. #4569
    Puppetmaster
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    72
    BG Level
    2

    In Squah's group, just finished another Bee run went 3/3 tonight and brought a buyer since squah left XD. Vasch uploading video now of the bee fight but there really isn't much to see...

    Honestly like this zone more than shark. Lesser 5 NM on shark are easier but shark can be annoying and drawn out. This zone its basically if you fuck up on scorp you exit and re-enter and go again. Once you beat scorp its smooth sailing.

  10. #4570
    Black Belt
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    5,668
    BG Level
    8
    FFXIV Character
    Arthars Menethil
    FFXIV Server
    Chocobo
    FFXI Server
    Odin

    yea scorp is a bitch.... CS stun it below 30% prolly advised.

    rng PT kill mastop fast O_O. Even faster if you have wildfire RNGs i'd imagine.

    drk mnk drg kill mastop too slow, unless u have muras sam and have multiple mnks for formless strikes rotation

  11. #4571

  12. #4572
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    664
    BG Level
    5
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    Quote Originally Posted by Sukian View Post
    In Squah's group, just finished another Bee run went 3/3 tonight and brought a buyer since squah left XD.
    gdi I would miss the buyer run because of work


    And to answer your question Okiru, as far as I am aware, the MNK did not formless on Mastop (I could be wrong) and every RNG was using Coronach with Annihilator, no Wildfires used. When I get home from work tonight I'll put the parse data for our Mastop in here.

  13. #4573
    New Spam Forum
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    157
    BG Level
    3
    FFXI Server
    Titan
    WoW Realm
    Bonechewer

    RNGs just pound Mastop. We were able to replicate about 3:30-4 min kills with melee/rng hybrid that we aren't able to do with two melee parties. Probably due to a piercing weakness and the fact that they have like 329 base damage?

    We have the mnks rotate using formless (2 MNK DRG, 4 RNG for dds). The biggest thing is just making sure someone puts dia back up after discharge. We noticed having a person, probably the GEO, to do this sped up the fight by almost double.

  14. #4574
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    664
    BG Level
    5
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    Anyone sitting idle spams debuffs on Mastop. Since you don't want him stunned, SCHs spam helices, dia, poison 1, BRDs spam nocturne and threnody (NOT FUCKIN ELEGY) and damage increase is noticeable (300~ to 600+ per shot).

    RNG pretty much never need healing except for Scorpion if it gets an undebuffed Earthbreaker off. Safely TP and WS 20.1 away, set it and forget it.

  15. #4575
    Old Merits
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    1,057
    BG Level
    6
    FFXI Server
    Sylph

    Quote Originally Posted by Squah View Post
    NM Fight times if anyone is curious:
    Scorp 4:48
    Chapuli 4:29
    Twitherym 4:23
    Mastop 5:04
    Tax'et 5:40ish
    Muyingwa 4:24
    I'm guessing buffs are
    Minuet V IV III II
    Archer/Hunter Prelude
    Hunter's/Chaos/Courser's/Rogue's rolls

    Is that right?

    My LS has an abundance of relic RNGs (I think my new Anni makes 8 or 9) and haven't broken the wall yet of a MB win with melee methods, so we're thinking about throwing RNGs at everything now. Any feedback would be appreciated (we're starting with Tojil in hopes of unlocking better melee equip, have beads if necessary).

    edit: I just noticed that Lithdrae switched from Yoichi 99 to BRD from the 1st to the 2nd ones you posted - is Yoichi infeasible? Or is it just that Anni is much better with the new ammo?

  16. #4576
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    664
    BG Level
    5
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    Right on with the buffs, Shadida. Our first attempt we had tried tacticians/samurai in place of the fourth roll, but it is largely insignificant with recycle cap augment. Rogues was the best choice to take advantage of dead aim's insane crit damage boost. The regular DD PT had standard marches/mins/mads/Scherzo

    In terms of 5NM plus boss with only RNG I only see it being possible in ceizak. Foret requires lots of formless/mura damage and Kurma is -not- RNG friendly in Morimar, nor the first 25% of Tojil (where formless shines). If you want to bead it up, fuck yeah RNG can clear it safely and easily with a decoy.

    Lithdrae switched because Stani (our other 4song BRD) finished his gun to 90 and LS mates saw that I did somewhat comparable to our 99 on our first clear with my 90, so we switched them in place since lith is a 3song/horn BRD. Its not that Yoichi is infeasible, just currently inferior:
    99 yoichi + achiyalabopa = 215 dmg
    A99ilator + achiyalabopa = 329 plus a far superior WS to go all out (Last Stand)

    Iirc as I was getting off vent I remember Sukian saying our buyer was filling my spot as a 99 yoichi, and I can assume he doesnt have boss ammo if he's buying a bee clear. I happened to be near top of parse so obviously swapping me for a bow wasn't enough of a hindrance to cause a failed run. Just as an aside, Vasch, Stani and I have very little RNG experience. Closest thing I have to it was Soboro SAM/RNG at 75 cap meriting.

  17. #4577
    E. Body
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,272
    BG Level
    7
    FFXIV Character
    Okiru Sasayake
    FFXIV Server
    Sargatanas
    FFXI Server
    Gilgamesh

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneyusTitan View Post
    RNGs just pound Mastop. We were able to replicate about 3:30-4 min kills with melee/rng hybrid that we aren't able to do with two melee parties. Probably due to a piercing weakness and the fact that they have like 329 base damage?

    We have the mnks rotate using formless (2 MNK DRG, 4 RNG for dds). The biggest thing is just making sure someone puts dia back up after discharge. We noticed having a person, probably the GEO, to do this sped up the fight by almost double.
    That's probably where someone was slacking for us then because RNG damage got rather low towards the second half of the fight.

  18. #4578
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    664
    BG Level
    5
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    I think that every time Mastop uses Emetic Dischsrge, his DT goes up/down depending on how many debuffs are transferred. There would be times where he'd back to back quickly with low debuff count, and I'd get one bullet off for 800, and after the second discharge damage would drop to the 300 range. Food for thought

  19. #4579

    Has anyone tried 'tomahawk" on Muyingwa to remove the DT? Just wondering whether warrior would be a feasible job to bring, given Ixtab and all.

  20. #4580
    Cerberus
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    496
    BG Level
    4
    FFXIV Character
    Sakura Ephemera
    FFXIV Server
    Brynhildr
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    Few things I've noticed:

    It's well-known that mastop needs a balance of damage types, and that his -DT has nothing to do with enfeebles. The only reason rangers do well in a hybrid setup is because you have a balance of different damage types. If you try to fight mastop with 6 RNG for instance, you're in for a wonderful treat. Even 3 RNGs can be slow at times if the melees are weak or dead, which is why armageddon is a much better choice if possible. Wildfire does 3.4k while coronach often drops below 2k. Other groups may not notice as much because they're using yoichi RNGs, or lower level-annihilators (thus ranged damage is low), but with 3 99 annihilators, ranged damage drops significantly. Conversely, melee damage rises.

    Only 2 enfeebles are required to force emetic discharge. Dia and helix work fine. You can stun him all you want. I would recommend stunning the spells. No reason to let breakga/dispelga/slowga go off.

    Almost positive that SAM roll would be better than rogue's, or tact, unless people aren't using accuracy gear. Lowering x-hit on RNG is far more significant than a crit rate boost. Either that or replace courser's roll with tact/sam. Tact or SAM should be in the rotation somewhere.

    On scorpion RNG can stand in sweet spot after 50%. There are no AoE attacks at that point other than earthbreaker, which is impossible to avoid anyway (other than CS stun). CS stun + RNG spamming last stand after 50 (make sure to wait for message to pop) seems to be the fastest way to kill. As was already said, if you screw up, just exit.

    This might sound harsh, but yoichi is very very far behind annihilator currently. I would probably go /DRG and use delve gun instead. Assuming everything is stunned on the bee, there's really nothing to worry about. COR can reset high jumps too. I had someone use delve gun in my group, and it worked fine.

    I believe it's possible that these bosses resist or are unaffected by mura/requiescat damage? I went BLU to shark recently, mainly to kill the krabguy since we didn't have mura SAM, and requiescat damage was pretty poor, even with angon dia frailty SV songs and rolls. It only did around 1500, while vorpal was much higher. Normally it does anywhere from 3k-5k fully buffed. I haven't tried (nor do I plan to) vs. Tojil or Bee but perhaps they designed them so you couldn't bypass the -DT with mura/requiescat? I know this is just speculation, but you'll have to take my word that my requiescat damage was absolutely horrible at all stages of the fight, 75-100, 50-75, 25-50, 0-25.
    *I'm suggesting more so that the NMs have a natural resistance to mura/requiescat-type damage, not that the -DT directly affects them, sort of like umbrils.*

Similar Threads

  1. Moblin Maze Mongers Delve Deeper Into Your Heart! (06/26/2009)
    By MoogleAura in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 68
    Last Post: 2009-06-30, 22:30
  2. Replies: 75
    Last Post: 2009-04-07, 03:38
  3. Replies: 77
    Last Post: 2009-04-02, 12:33
  4. Delve Deep with the Moblin Maze Mongers! (12/17/2008)
    By Not Kuno in forum FFXI: Everything
    Replies: 66
    Last Post: 2008-12-17, 15:42