Duty Finder Facts

[fussel]

I'm not sure if this is common knowledge already, but I've seen a lot of confusion in /shut about it, so here we go:

1. Contrary to other opinions, it actually works
2. It's cross-server (I'm on Odin and I got put in Tam-Tara with someone from Hyperion)
3. You may not trade on duty. Reason: Point 2.
4. If you're in a party that's not full, the party leader registers for duty and your empty party slots will be filled
5. You may change classes while registered for duty. However, when the "Commence"-window pops up, you may not instantly join. Dismiss the window, change your class to the one you registered with, then join the duty from the duty finder menu.
6. If everyone in the party clicks "Pass" on a loot item, the item will be lost. (SRSLY, WTF?)
7. If you leave mid duty you get a 15 min time out.
7.a. If you get DC'd and your party kicks you before you get back within a minute, you get the same time out as if you disbanded.
7.b. If a party member leaves and the rest cannot find a replacement shortly(I.E if a tank leaves, good bloody luck finding one coming in mid-way), you will not get a time out penalty.
8. You cannot send or receive tells during the instance
9. When opening coffers, the common items get distributed randomly to party members.
9.a. A stack of coins in the coffer gets randomly distributed to one party member and will not be split.
10. For uncommon items, you can right-click on the coffer itself or the pop-up message to open the Need/Greed/Pass-Window.

[Ratatapa]

I'm not sure if this is common knowledge already, but I've seen a lot of confusion in /shut about it, so here we go:

1. Contrary to other opinions, it actually works
2. It's cross-server (I'm on Odin and I got put in Tam-Tara with someone from Hyperion)
3. You may not trade on duty. Reason: Point 2.
4. If you're in a party that's not full, the party leader registers for duty and your empty party slots will be filled
5. You may change classes while registered for duty. However, when the "Commence"-window pops up, you may not instantly join. Dismiss the window, change your class to the one you registered with, then join the duty from the duty finder menu.
6. If everyone in the party clicks "Pass" on a loot item, the item will be lost. (SRSLY, WTF?)

Don't see the problem with #6 lol kinda logical?

#7 Don't always expect competent players in Duty finder

[Hyan]

BG population =/= in-game /shout

[Evane]

#8 If you leave mid duty you get a 15 min time out.

[Dathus]

#8 If you leave mid duty you get a 15 min time out.

#8.a: If you get DC'd and your party kicks you before you get back within a minute, you get the same time out as if you disbanded.
#8.b: If a party member leaves and the rest cannot find a replacement shortly(I.E if a tank leaves, good bloody luck finding one coming in mid-way), you will not get a time out penalty.

[Kachiko]

#9. If the duty finder pops, and one or more fail to respond, to the pop up, you are immediately re-queued, at the top of the queue list.

[Ardrial]

Can anybody tell me if they fixed the bug where a party member DC'd and it was impossible to replace them cause they stayed in the party forever?

Also the one where you'd join an empty group.

Also, if you choice join party in progress does it now wait untill it finds a full group before throwing you in?

[Darte]

Can anybody tell me if they fixed the bug where a party member DC'd and it was impossible to replace them cause they stayed in the party forever?

Aha so thats what that was... Had a group member lose power and we couldn't kick or look for replacements. Thought it was "working as intended" and we were grumbling about it. I hope that gets fixed.

[Weltall]

I'm shocked Rata did not create this thread

Duty Finder has worked well for me since P3.

[miokomioko]

Word, Duty Finder has worked like a dream to me. On top of that, the worse the "bads" have been are just the people who don't have any interest in getting all the chests or doing anything other than bee-lining for the boss.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

As dps the wait times are pretty long. I mean 20-30 minutes average, I've waited as long as 40-60 minutes a few times. We ran into a problem where a key was dropped in satasha and you couldn't pick it up. Ended up clearing the dungeon as much a we could but had to exit and get hit with the 15 minute lockout. Really wish they would have thrown a second healer in the game for launch. I feel that's the big thing lacking. At least there are two tanks. Even if they lowered the jobs to level 20 to unlock would have helped, assuming sch is going to heal. I'm also wondering if there's a 'max' amount of instances that are allowed. You figure with so many people playing you shouldn't be waiting more than 5-10 minutes for a dungeon unless you're waiting for a healer/tank.

[Tokitoki]

As dps the wait times are pretty long. I mean 20-30 minutes average, I've waited as long as 40-60 minutes a few times. We ran into a problem where a key was dropped in satasha and you couldn't pick it up. Ended up clearing the dungeon as much a we could but had to exit and get hit with the 15 minute lockout. Really wish they would have thrown a second healer in the game for launch. I feel that's the big thing lacking. At least there are two tanks. Even if they lowered the jobs to level 20 to unlock would have helped, assuming sch is going to heal. I'm also wondering if there's a 'max' amount of instances that are allowed. You figure with so many people playing you shouldn't be waiting more than 5-10 minutes for a dungeon unless you're waiting for a healer/tank.

There is always a larger base of DD characters/classes in MMOs. With 8 classes, 5 being classified as DDs it is a given there will be a longer wait time for non-healer/tanks. Healer/tank queue times were basically non-existent. I got a party on CNJ immediately each time I queue'd which is why I brought along an LS member who started a DD.

[Retrieving/C.D/Searain]

whereas tanks and healers usually get parties within 5 seconds from popping up the flag, waiting times for DD's made me not want to touch a DD ever again after getting Pugilist up there for the cross-class skills.

I've had people (in fact, the vast majority of them did) telling me they had been waiting for up to an hour, might as well just shout then, it'd most likely get you a full party faster.

I actually felt bad for DD's losing lots on gear considering how much time they must've been investing in the whole ordeal, on average.

[Tokitoki]

whereas tanks and healers usually get parties within 5 seconds from popping up the flag, waiting times for DD's made me not want to touch a DD ever again after getting Pugilist up there for the cross-class skills.

I've had people (in fact, the vast majority of them did) telling me they had been waiting for up to an hour, might as well just shout then, it'd most likely get you a full party faster.

I actually felt bad for DD's losing lots on gear considering how much time they must've been investing in the whole ordeal, on average.

I waited 15-20 minutes when I was trying on ACN. This was before I realized why my game crashed each time I hit "Commence." This was Saturday night with the entire server sitting outside Sastasha it seemed. Took twice as long to get anything done in the field because everything was getting slaughtered in seconds from all the people.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

yea the DD wait is awful. After I leveled up where I needed to be on ACN I was about to hop on WHM and just get insta ques and lot on all gear for ACN. Probably will end up doing this at launch for all of my lv 42 classes that I need to finish but need gear for. Sucks the DD wait is so long.

[Lucavi]

Nothing to see here. Same thing as in every MMO. Anyone who wants to play DPS' best bet is to either hook up with a tank or healer or just gather your 4-man squads ahead of time.

[Celeras]

Am I mistaken, or can you not whisper people doing a dungeon with Duty Finder?



I mean, there's a long list of archaic shit plaguing every corner of this game.. but this would be entering new areas of horrible. Hoping it's a "busy" option or something we didn't notice how to turn off?

[Fievel]

Am I mistaken, or can you not whisper people doing a dungeon with Duty Finder?



I mean, there's a long list of archaic shit plaguing every corner of this game.. but this would be entering new areas of horrible. Hoping it's a "busy" option or something we didn't notice how to turn off?

Can't send or receive tells while in instance.

[solracht]

This problem happens in every game, but I feel like in this game it's made a lot worse by the 1tank 1healer 2dd party setup.

There are no effective ways to force people to play the least used roles, but there are certainly ways to take advantage of what people want to play, such as using a 1tank 1healer 3-4 DD setup. The best part is Yoshida stated his 8man setup is 2tank 2healer 4DD, so the ratio won't actually change with more people.

Oh well.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Am I mistaken, or can you not whisper people doing a dungeon with Duty Finder?



I mean, there's a long list of archaic shit plaguing every corner of this game.. but this would be entering new areas of horrible. Hoping it's a "busy" option or something we didn't notice how to turn off?

Main reason for this is that you're basically in a inter-server limbo, as in the OP. I don't think the game would really know what to do if you tried whispering Seph Iroth (yourserver) while you were instance-partying with Seph Iroth (anotherserver). But that's speculative on my part.