The crafting & gathering thread.

[Ramor]

Few questions, first general for DoH and changes to how they will function in HW:

I have BSM/CUL/ARM all at 50 (arm at like 45, will be 50 later today), the rest sitting at at least 15 most around 20-30 for my DoH. Should I first level CRP/WVR/others to 50 for the cross-class actions before really grinding out 60 on my other classes? Also my DoW is still at around i110 and I don't have 3.0 stuff unlocked yet because I started way late in the game and the MSQs are taking for-fucking ever and are super boring, so is having the 3.0 areas unlocked super relevant for DoH classes as well for the 50-60 grind?

For the HW changes, since picking 3 DoH classes is going to 'specialize' in will it be worth it to try and have all of the DoH classes at 60 or will that maybe be a somewhat fruitless effort?

Also my DoL classes are pretty low (~10) so is leveling them worth my time or should I just focus on DoH?

I don't have a ton of time to play anymore so we're talking maybe 1-2 hours a day on average and I'm just trying to figure out what spending my time on is best for. I still do the Ixal & GC turn-ins everyday if they aren't overly expensive, I just want to know where to put my energy next.

[Churchill]

Am I missing something with crafting? Probably a third of the recipes for HW leves are unavailable, turn in items for Main Story quests are unavailable, turn in items for GC are unavailable, turn in items for House of Splendor are unavailable.

Unless of course you buy the Mastercraft III book, which is easier said than done depending on the class you leveled first.

[Buffy]

Few questions, first general for DoH and changes to how they will function in HW:

I have BSM/CUL/ARM all at 50 (arm at like 45, will be 50 later today), the rest sitting at at least 15 most around 20-30 for my DoH. Should I first level CRP/WVR/others to 50 for the cross-class actions before really grinding out 60 on my other classes? Also my DoW is still at around i110 and I don't have 3.0 stuff unlocked yet because I started way late in the game and the MSQs are taking for-fucking ever and are super boring, so is having the 3.0 areas unlocked super relevant for DoH classes as well for the 50-60 grind?

For the HW changes, since picking 3 DoH classes is going to 'specialize' in will it be worth it to try and have all of the DoH classes at 60 or will that maybe be a somewhat fruitless effort?

Also my DoL classes are pretty low (~10) so is leveling them worth my time or should I just focus on DoH?

I don't have a ton of time to play anymore so we're talking maybe 1-2 hours a day on average and I'm just trying to figure out what spending my time on is best for. I still do the Ixal & GC turn-ins everyday if they aren't overly expensive, I just want to know where to put my energy next.

You need 50 for the cross class skills. I'm not sure if there are any 50+ cross class skills that are gonna be must haves yet. But yah, finish all the others off to 50 as you can. By then the market should have some shape to it and the guys already 60 or currently pushing their way there will be able to give more input on cross-class skills.

Plus we getting a patch in like 2.5 weeks, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was some recipe stuff in there. I know it is for Alexander, but there is some stuff missing from 3.0 that I expected, like craft-specific AF.

Although maybe that comes from Red scripts and we just don't know it yet.

Finish to 50.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Right now Specialists seem like more of a way to help people not have to be omnicrafters to be good at one or two (or three) crafts. To my knowledge the Specialist stuff has either not been fully explored and/or 4-star rotations have been sufficient. Personally I am holding off on assigning my Specialists until we know more.

[Alistaire]

Whistle while you work has an important distinction between how it works and how it's worded.

Grants a Whistle stack of 11. One Whistle used for each step that material condition is Good or Excellent. Increases the effectiveness of certain crafting actions when the stack size is a multiple of three. Progress increases significantly when stack size reaches 0 and effect wears off.

How the bolded part works is that when it wears off, your next step will involuntarily be a progress step called "finishing touches". It's not a touch, it's more of a Rapid Synthesis, seems to be about the same progress and it can fail, even with Steady Hands II up.

So be careful about making sure it doesn't wear off @ 10 durability, or when you're about a Rapid Synth away from completion, or only enough durability for your finisher.

[Rehn]

I'm curious if I'm missing a quick way to level my crafters past 55. Leveling MIN and BTN to 60 was quick enough with GC turn ins and leve's, but crafting seems to take forever with just those.

There's really no secret to leveling them other than accepting the grind. I find the old 1 star recipes easy to bang out with just 1 macro using old 50 cap gear, and grant 12-15k exp per if you 100% quality from 0% (no HQ mats). All of the new recipes require stupid amount of base mat (5 log, 3 skin, etc) so mass producing them is a huge gilsink. Right now on my server, it costs more to buy the skin/tea leaves than the leather, so its a loss for the end product.

Also, do your challenge logs for crafting. Melding materia and such are 10% of your total tnl. Stuff like FC buff and those GC scrolls help too.

[Aerin]

I suppose. It's probably just feels extra grindy because I'm trying to level all 8 crafting jobs at once and make HQ gear as they level.

[Buffy]

GC turn in are swell. Thanks for reminding me this was a thing Gulk.

[Aerin]

Are the level 60 main hands from the new master books?

[Rehn]

Yes, they are. Vendor in helix sells NQ as well.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Anyone happen to bookmark a good post on reddit/OF about ephemeral node times? There are some not listed in gathering log (such as Hinterlands and Churning Mists) and information I've found is both conflicting and lacking and I don't want to sit in each zone for an hour trying to figure out which ones have them unmentioned lol. Trying to get this to make maps of gathering locations. Example:

Spoiler: show

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...view?sle=true#
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...gendary_nodes/

Edit: Done

http://imgur.com/a/mdNcb#0

Feedback is welcome. Not adding folklore nodes yet because lazy, I don't have em, and they aren't gonna be used for 3 more weeks.

Mainly let me know if you see an Epehemeral node outside times listed. It makes a clear order with a 4h break across all the zones but it's possible there's more.

BTN Ephemeral
12a-4a: Western
4a-8a: Hinterlands
8a-12p: Forelands
12p-4p: -----
4p-8p: Churning Mists
8p-12a: Sea of Clouds

MIN Ephemeral
12a-4a: -----
4a-8a: Forelands
8a-12p: Hinterlands
12p-4p: Churning Mists
4p-8p: Sea of Clouds
8p-12a: Western

[Seravi Edalborez]

Anyone tried the 54 cross from GSM, Maker's Mark?

[Alistaire]

Anyone tried the 54 cross from GSM, Maker's Mark?

Can update on that later today.

Also the lvl 57 action "nymeia's wheel" has some good use, again a bit different than what you'd get from the wording like I posted about whistle while you work.

The wording "Restores item durability. Amount determined by current Whistle stack. Whistle effect ends upon use." for 18 cp restored 20 durability when around the 4-whistle stack, but maybe more importantly making whistle wear off thru this ability did not trigger the involuntary "finishing touches" step that happens when whistle wears off on its own.

So even on its own, 54 cp for restoring at least 20 durability (36 for whistle, 18 for wheel) is pretty cool with no downside of badly timed progress steps.

Edit: @ 1 whistle stack durability went up 30. :D

[Crizto]

Anyone tried the 54 cross from GSM, Maker's Mark?

It's pretty decent although it does require two slots for cross-skill. It's a good way to cut out a progress step and get free Good procs to trigger Whistle stacks. How many stacks of Maker's Mark you get is determined by the maximum Difficulty of the item you're trying to make; something like every 80 = 1 stack (someone told me it a few days ago but forgot )

[Seravi Edalborez]

Played around with it, this is pretty nice for leveling for sure. I get 9 stacks on a 808 difficulty synth (level 57 synth). I haven't set a specialist yet so I'm using Good procs during it for Precise Touch.

[Ratatapa]

I have no done crafting in years, I have all craft at 50 with Melded AF

400 Carft 389 Control and 355 CP, where do i start like do i need that artisan gear that was released in 2.4ish? can i start leveling now? I'm kinda fully lost in crafting

[Buffy]

You're badly behind obviously. Your craftsmanship in particular is an issue because you'll have trouble finishing synths. If you can grind your way to 52/53 you can start to get access to newer gear, especially main hands which you can buy of market boards or have a friend make for you. It's gonna be painful getting there though.

You might have some luck making synths for people and selling on ah. Darksteel nuggets for example are needed for a lot of crafts, you could just grind your way off those maybe.

[Ratatapa]

would doing GC gear to give in a good way to boost me to 52-53?

[Buffy]

Yah, GC turn ins are awesome. But you start getting new recipes at 52.

[Ratatapa]

What I kinda wanna avoid is possible is to have like lv 55 gear that I need to fully meld, and then repeat the process at 60