The crafting & gathering thread.

[crystalszero]

35 dura is identical to 40 dura except it takes away the place of "waste not" which is a little bit CP efficiency. However the 70 dura one takes out 10 dura which is basiclly crafting a 80 dura recipes with 26 to 30 CP less to start with. New gears give you 404 CP compare to 348 CP (back in 2.0) so the overall concept of crafting new 1 star compare to the old one does not change too much.

[Edelweiss]

...People actually use Waste Not?

[Buffy]

I use Waste not on almost every synth.

What are you doing instead, the hasty touch/manipulation cycle?

[Gulkeeva]

...People actually use Waste Not?

I used waste not for my macro for 35/40 durability stuff as I was lvling O_o

manually did the 70/80 dura stuff (I don't use waste not for that though)

[Spider-Dan]

Waste Not is less CP efficient than Manipulation.

I only use it in macros, or if I'm somehow stuck in CP limbo near the end of a synth, where I can't afford to use Manipulation but I really need more IQ stacks instead of burning CP on Standard/Advanced Touch.

[Raldo]

The point of Waste Not is to get your durability from a X0 (80, 70, etc.) to a X5 (75, 65, etc.), and refund yourself 20CP back in the process. If you can accomplish that, it's better than Manipulation. It is, of course, somewhat of a gamble, just like Hasty Touch spamming.

[Buffy]

I'm not sure anyone cares, but the CP cap on level 55 HQ crafting body is 4.



I didn't search for the Craftsmanship or control cap (since it's just a bridge piece to 60 gear anyway), but I could have put 15 Craftsmanship instead of 10 on if I wanted.



I presume all the caps are higher than Artisan since It's i100 vs i60, but would be nice to know caps.

Ultimately, not that it matters. Would be like knowing the caps on velveteen gear, who cares.

[Luthia]

The base CP on i100 gear is scary. And CP materia so fkin expensive atm Lol

[Sigmakan]

Garland Tools has the stat caps for all gear, pretty nifty. For the crafter body its:
+29 Craftsmanship
+9 Control
+4 CP

[Buffy]

I didn't know that Garland Tools website existed.

[Gulkeeva]

Not even going to meld the left side yet, just melding the right side is overkill for stats

Add on using crafted food seafoodstew HQ (costs under 6K total if you farm the paprika thing and just buy all the seafood stuff and also great to sell at rip off prices to the public) and you got like 430-440CP.

veerrryy easy to HQ stuff (with or without specialization) manually crafting. Probably 80% chance to HQ without food on 1 star, as long as rngjesus doesn't rape you.

[Ratatapa]

Aynone know the melding cap on the Crafter Lv 59 Offhand HQ?

[Buffy]

Are we assuming that red scripts crafting gear is going to be better than craftable i150 gear?

Or maybe that red scripts will give us access to another book with craftable i180ish gear?

I have trouble believing that straight scripts gear will be best in slot because denying crafters the chance to make their own gear seems particularly cruel and short sighted.

I'm guessing we still have another tier of gear to see, which red scripts come out, which makes me dis-inclined to try to meld current i150 gear, and Gulk mentioned in previous post.

[Buffy]

Aynone know the melding cap on the Crafter Lv 59 Offhand HQ?

Get ready to laugh.

Craftsmanship +52
Control +26
CP +4

Also, posted previously in this thread, a resource I hadn't heard of till yesterday has all your stat/gear caps on everything:

http://www.garlandtools.org/db/

[Luthia]

Are we assuming that red scripts crafting gear is going to be better than craftable i150 gear?

Or maybe that red scripts will give us access to another book with craftable i180ish gear?

I have trouble believing that straight scripts gear will be best in slot because denying crafters the chance to make their own gear seems particularly cruel and short sighted.

I'm guessing we still have another tier of gear to see, which red scripts come out, which makes me dis-inclined to try to meld current i150 gear, and Gulk mentioned in previous post.

Scrips gear wont be BiS, Yoshi said that on one of the live letters. But yeah, I doubt what we have atm is going to be endgame crafting gear, we prolly gonna get some new sets soon*

[Ratatapa]

Get ready to laugh.

Craftsmanship +52
Control +26
CP +4

Also, posted previously in this thread, a resource I hadn't heard of till yesterday has all your stat/gear caps on everything:

http://www.garlandtools.org/db/

So almost better to keep them unmedled HQ atm till V are out lol

[Gulkeeva]

Its probably safe to say, whatever gear comes out with the red scrips addition... that will be the time that whatever the "bis crafting gear" is, will last awhile and should meld then

Also, its most likely safe to max meld accessories currently

P.s. I dunno about you, but I doubt I will be using V materia for a long time unless there is a way to get them easier (maybe red scrips!?). Not sure I'd like to shove 3mil materia into a socket any less than 100% and even then I think I'd go with that 3mil

So almost better to keep them unmedled HQ atm till V are out lol

V is technically out atm, and if you check the boards, they are averaging 2mil+

[Ratatapa]

Its probably safe to say, whatever gear comes out with the red scrips addition... that will be the time that whatever the "bis crafting gear" is, will last awhile and should meld then

Also, its most likely safe to max meld accessories currently

P.s. I dunno about you, but I doubt I will be using V materia for a long time unless there is a way to get them easier (maybe red scrips!?). Not sure I'd like to shove 3mil materia into a socket any less than 100% and even then I think I'd go with that 3mil



V is technically out atm, and if you check the boards, they are averaging 2mil+

yeah but you can only get them with the Goblin no? I mean out like SB and stuff

[Buffy]

I bet they unlock spiritbond conversion on crafting tier V with red scripts too

[crystalszero]

Waste Not is less CP efficient than Manipulation.

I only use it in macros, or if I'm somehow stuck in CP limbo near the end of a synth, where I can't afford to use Manipulation but I really need more IQ stacks instead of burning CP on Standard/Advanced Touch.

Do the math:
WN: 56CP for 20 dura, 28CP/dura
Man: 88CP for 30 dura, 29.33CP/dura