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  1. #3521
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    There is no functional difference between "hey, your damage is low, go check out this thread for some tips" and "hey, your damage is 300 but it should be 700, go check out this thread for tips."
    You're right, but those were both my statements. Yours was "lern2play."

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    I don't dispute that you have a much more polite way of suggesting they learn how to play. However, that isn't the point.

    The point is that whether you say "low damage output" or "300 vs. 700 DPS," the outcome is the same. Whether you preface that with a polite suggestion on how to improve (up to/including direct instructions on how to fix the problem), or a simple statement that they suck, the presence or absence of concrete DPS numbers doesn't really change anything.

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    Yoshi-P said in the last live letter that they already have their own DPS counter for the dev team and yet I still have to stand next to a PS3/4 player attacking a striking dummy to tell them their DPS count.

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    Fucking lol at that drg "rotation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    the presence or absence of concrete DPS numbers doesn't really change anything.
    Because there's no difference between someone telling you that your damage sucks with no way to verify it and the game itself showing you that your damage sucks.

    Right.

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    Game won't kick you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Because there's no difference between someone telling you that your damage sucks with no way to verify it and the game itself showing you that your damage sucks.
    If you aren't going to take my word for how much damage you are doing, why would you take my word for how much damage you should be doing?

    Should you also take my word that your job and this other different job should be doing the same DPS on this content?

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    Because they're not the only person in the group.

    And when they're doing less than the tank and half as much as the other DPS the evidence starts to mount up.

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    Random fail, I have my PF saying i can do GSM work

    Someone ask me to do him an NQ platnimum circlet of casting with full mats. So i tell him to tip me what he wants, and he comes to me. Problem? Seems I forgot to get GSM book II, so I ask him to wait, get the mats for the rose gold clog, then see i need the calibrated one 3x.

    Check mats and the Fieldcraft materia III costed me 300k for all 6.

    Result? guy gave me 10k tip

    FUCK ME

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Because they're not the only person in the group.

    And when they're doing less than the tank and half as much as the other DPS the evidence starts to mount up.
    The idea that dealing less DPS than your tank (or your healer!) would conclusively prove that you are playing the job wrong would be a more credible argument in a game where the playerbase didn't complain about tanks not tanking and healers not healing.

    Your argument rests entirely upon people obstinately insisting that they are doing just fine in the face of being told what they are doing wrong. Adding DPS meters does not solve this problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    I think it's even more funny that the usernames are censored but not in the quotes.

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    I'd quote the last 10 or so pages of just about everyone that's posted here as a fail for turning a 'post fails here' thread into a huge butthurt bitchfest. :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by sum ting wong View Post
    I'd quote the last 10 or so pages of just about everyone that's posted here as a fail for turning a 'post fails here' thread into a huge butthurt bitchfest. :3
    Inferior settings. Tryhard. Appropriate thread.

    Just don't spam posts and you're okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    Inferior settings. Tryhard. Appropriate thread.

    Just don't spam posts and you're okay.
    Honestly, I'm trying to find thinly veiled legitimate excuses to get to 10 posts so I can link my fully named and appropriately laid out Heavensward OST in the appropriate thread for others to enjoy. You know, since no one seems to have made an mp3 version of that yet for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragns View Post
    I think it's even more funny that the usernames are censored but not in the quotes.
    Yeah we wouldn't have known he was a massive dic..err duck otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sum ting wong View Post
    Honestly, I'm trying to find thinly veiled legitimate excuses to get to 10 posts so I can link my fully named and appropriately laid out Heavensward OST in the appropriate thread for others to enjoy. You know, since no one seems to have made an mp3 version of that yet for some reason.
    You would do more good by making 10 posts that contribute to discussion instead of pissing off the natives. Just sayin'.

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    Just posting the pic because I don't even know where to start.

    If you're bored you can just take a minute and I'm sure you'll find like 20 awful, terrible things wrong.


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    It's like he took everything he was supposed to do and then did the opposite.