Random Fail: your words are false

[Judai]

There was no BLM and they planned on melee LBing the 2nd casting Sahagin apparently. One of the members exited duty after the first wipe and that led me to inquire why they would opt to use that inefficient strategy... dude was quite offended by that apparently:

We use Caster LB3 on 2nd Dread Sahagin+Head/Tail, nothing inefficient about using it then. Prolly don't need Melee LB3 for it but spumes are easy as hell and getting rid of the 2% risk that Dread gets hysteria or a pool off is smarter, as those nearly always create a wipe. Sounds like people in that party sucked anyways though.

[Ksandra]

We use Caster LB3 on 2nd Dread Sahagin+Head/Tail, nothing inefficient about using it then. Prolly don't need Melee LB3 for it but spumes are easy as hell and getting rid of the 2% risk that Dread gets hysteria or a pool off is smarter, as those nearly always create a wipe. Sounds like people in that party sucked anyways though.

I actually find it odd people lb the splumes, but that is basically the way it is always done on Sarg. It seems in the past people always want to follow Mr. Happy's strat, and his is to lb the second dread, which ya makes more sense to me, but no one does that here. If you can kill the first set of splumes, you can kill the second set.

[Raldo]

If you can kill the first set of splumes, you can kill the second set.

The same logic applies in reverse; if you can kill the first Dread add w/o LB, you can kill the second. Personally, I'd rather use the method that gets some extra damage on Levi, but a win is a win either way it's done.

[Judai]

The same logic applies in reverse; if you can kill the first Dread add w/o LB, you can kill the second. Personally, I'd rather use the method that gets some extra damage on Levi, but a win is a win either way it's done.

If you are using Caster LB3, you are doing the same damage to Levi either way.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Meteor on both parts of Levi in theory (and in practice? *shrug*) does more than Melee LB3. 5400 x2 potency vs 9000. If it wasn't known.

[Diomer]

We use Caster LB3 on 2nd Dread Sahagin+Head/Tail, nothing inefficient about using it then. Prolly don't need Melee LB3 for it but spumes are easy as hell and getting rid of the 2% risk that Dread gets hysteria or a pool off is smarter, as those nearly always create a wipe. Sounds like people in that party sucked anyways though.

It's definitely inefficient to use a melee LB3 to kill that 2nd Dread Sahagin instantly; Casting LB3 makes much more sense if you'd prefer to use your LB on that Sahagin instead of Spumes as it will damage Leviathan at the same time, which is what I was saying. However, I guess Mr. Happy's video explains where that strategy originates from, although I'd bet that they have moved away from that strategy now since he was probably in one of the very early clear groups. I've seen pugs fail in pretty much every way possible at this point, but I'm 100% sure that their group would've enraged Leviathan if they had used melee LB3 instead of casting LB3 on the 2nd Dread Sahagin given that the 4th DD was dead virtually the entire fight.

In the end, for a solid group or with your FC, it's pretty much irrelevant how you use LB or if you even use LB at all with how easy it is to pass the DPS checks, but these are pugs we're talking about so I guess it's just about finding the method that you think your particular pugs have less of a chance to fuck up.

[Niiro]

Meteor on both parts of Levi in theory (and in practice? *shrug*) does more than Melee LB3. 5400 x2 potency vs 9000. If it wasn't known.

Doesn't caster LB damage decrease with # of targets?

[Hiroishime]

Always seems to deals the same of damage that few times Hygieas run off and got out of range from LB.

[Elcura]

Home stretch in Levi EX, 1 BLM down with 3 other DPS alive (MNK/BLM/SMN) make it past Tidal Wave and, super add arrives. We get it to about 10-15% before hysteria starts coming out and naturally everyone dies.

I say that in that scenario the healers could've helped

Spoiler: show

Keep in mind I was the only 91 DPS. I dunno about you guys, but when I heal Levi in PUGs, I make sure the one thing that almost always wipes a group dies.

[Seravi Edalborez]

"let everyone die during tidal waves"

Yes. Because if you don't fucking kill it everyone dies anyways. Same thing for the last 2-3 rounds of double roar before enrage Tidal Wave. I tell people don't bother healing after the 2nd one because we're dead either way. They just get pissy and offended.

[Dammerung]

Spoilers: Fluid Aura and Holmgang can both interrupt the cast even after it goes stun immune.

[Kaisha]

Spoilers: Fluid Aura and Holmgang can both interrupt the cast even after it goes stun immune.

Not to mention Shockwave from the SMN.

[Zeille]

Warning: Old man yells at cloud.

Back in my day, when running turn 1 in darklight and shit, you learned it properly. None of this is required now due to overgearing, but it still irks me sometimes. Not gonna lose sleep over it.

1) Tanking near the entrance vs. tanking near the rear of the arena - One of the slime spawns is tough to get to since it can pop on two pads near the rear, forcing the person that pops to run all the way across the arena. Annoying. Tanking near the rear removes this scenario from ever happening.

2) OT feeding vs. brd feeding before split - one takes more damage than the other, just why? I get the "So OT is ready for split" argument, but if you're watching your dps and splitting when you're supposed to, this isn't an issue.

3) Holding dps until after 2nd feed vs. lolburnthismotherdown - snakes split around 69%. Splitting with 1 stack is not ideal and can cause headaches/wipes. Pepperidge farm remembers when we had to slow or hold our dps so we could force the split with 0 stacks.

I get it, shit's auto-pilot now, but it's like nails on a chalkboard to me.

[Qeomash]

Warning: Old man yells at cloud.

Back in my day, when running turn 1 in darklight and shit, you learned it properly. None of this is required now due to overgearing, but it still irks me sometimes. Not gonna lose sleep over it.

1) Tanking near the entrance vs. tanking near the rear of the arena - One of the slime spawns is tough to get to since it can pop on two pads near the rear, forcing the person that pops to run all the way across the arena. Annoying. Tanking near the rear removes this scenario from ever happening.

2) OT feeding vs. brd feeding before split - one takes more damage than the other, just why? I get the "So OT is ready for split" argument, but if you're watching your dps and splitting when you're supposed to, this isn't an issue.

3) Holding dps until after 2nd feed vs. lolburnthismotherdown - snakes split around 69%. Splitting with 1 stack is not ideal and can cause headaches/wipes. Pepperidge farm remembers when we had to slow or hold our dps so we could force the split with 0 stacks.

I get it, shit's auto-pilot now, but it's like nails on a chalkboard to me.

Grab some PUGs and teach them non-enrage T2.

[Mifaco]

So during an attempt on a practice run some people died and warped back. All but one person was still stuck in the instance. I don't know if this person was conflagged or what, but rather than reset the instance, Twin decided to come for people on the elevator. Well we broke the instance, might as well try for the kill. So we went to work.

The first 50% was straight tank and spank. She didn't bother doing fireballs or conflags or even Death Sentence. She just flapped there and pummeled. We thought we might have this. But then when it came time for divebombs Twin's AI script went absolutely apeshit. She was warping all over the place spamming the "action stunned" sound.

Sadly it came to an end when the person inside the instance died marathoning the snakes around. Too bad. I would have loved to see how this worked with Twisters or Aetheric Profusion. Or even better, force an emergency maintenance!

[Fondue]

prepare for ban

[Ksandra]

My own amazing fail. Luckily this shit doesn't matter, but seriously it made me rofl

[FHT]

I see that more & more now a day:

http://i61.tinypic.com/2r4rb5s.png

Also, this one from a few days ago:

http://i60.tinypic.com/10fanvp.jpg

[Gulkeeva]

I see that more & more now a day:

I see your DF and raise you...

http://forum.neko-sentai.com/attachm...2&d=1397263727

[Shaano]

I'm ok with shit talkin, but this had me curious of his i100 pld.
http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...3f237b5fa5.jpg
Went and made a new character to say hi and have him prove me wrong.
http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...3f237b5fb7.jpg

Never replied, entered duty and is being a little bitch about it gosh oh gosh I wanted to see how mad skillz he had that sprinting on ifrit and wasting TP was awesome.

Oh and 2 wars in party, don't need stun if people know the fight which we didn't wipe and killed nails just fine.