Summoner / Scholar sort-of in-depth

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2013-11-23 10:16

Unless you're crazy enough to Place everywhere you go (though I do that on Demon Wall).

**Raldo** · 2013-11-23 10:30

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

Unless you're crazy enough to Place everywhere you go (though I do that on Demon Wall).

Are you saying you deliberately place her to avoid having her get hit by the purple shit? The fairy can sit in that purple shit just fine. She doesn't get slowed, and it barely hurts her.

You obviously have to place her if she gets knocked back into the poison, but beyond that, I just set her in the middle and forget her.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2013-11-23 10:33

It's not out of necessity. Just boredom. You can just keep her in middle since that's only Heavy debuff and who cares about that. Sides are Slow.

Plus it makes me look like I know what I'm doing, I guess.

(Fun aside: Demon wall's purple shit extends past the door if the room gets locked off)

**Niiro** · 2013-11-23 10:41

Yea, and she can be slowed.

**Raldo** · 2013-11-23 16:02

By the purple shit? That's all I meant. I know she can get slowed by other stuff. I've never seen the purple goop slow her, but I rarely run AK on SCH.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2013-11-23 16:09

She does get slowed by at left/right purple. Succor and maybe pre-stoneskin are enough to null the hit anyways though.

**Kipling** · 2013-11-25 11:30

I can also confirm she can be slowed. I just place her in the middle on demon wall and possibly erase her slow if I feel like it. I sit in cleric stance full time and let her heal. She is a stupid whore and I hate her, so I usually just ignore the slow.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2013-11-25 12:12

Minor thought occurred to me the other day: Crystal Tower might hamstring SMN/SCH/BRD-heavy groups due to the 30 debuff limit unless SE plans on allowing CT bosses to have more on them. Though it's supposed to be pretty easy in any case so whatever?

**Lokus** · 2013-11-25 17:56

It's going to affect all the jobs since every job has 1-3 dots/debuffs they can put up. It's a stupid limit which will hurt SMN the most since dots are the main damage source. I read a dev quote a while back that mentions that everything has a 30 debuff/buff limit, including players. If memory is an issue, I don't see why they can't just lower the debuff/buff limit for players from 30 to 15 and shift that over to enemies.

**Spider-Dan** · 2013-11-26 00:32

Originally Posted by Lokus

It's going to affect all the jobs since every job has 1-3 dots/debuffs they can put up. It's a stupid limit which will hurt SMN the most since dots are the main damage source.

BRD would also be greatly affected.

**Alkar** · 2013-11-26 05:03

Originally Posted by Ratatapa

So who whose happy about all the myth wasted on SCH af2 now that allagan is getting lv 90 to 95

Even if that was the case (it's not apparently) how are you "wasting" myths when that's the only gear you can purchase?

**Ratatapa** · 2013-11-26 08:23

Quick info that i confirmed with loldrg in game

The Awareness buff from PLD do not only block Critical hits from mobs

But also Critical hits from heals, so if you see that you dont crit alot on a PLD see if he has Awareness up

**Tidane** · 2013-11-26 11:36

Originally Posted by Ratatapa

Quick info that i confirmed with loldrg in game

The Awareness buff from PLD do not only block Critical hits from mobs

But also Critical hits from heals, so if you see that you dont crit alot on a PLD see if he has Awareness up

That is glorious. I wonder if it is intended or oversight. Any post on the official "working as intended" forum?

**Ratatapa** · 2013-11-26 13:37

Someone do it I'm banned

**Raldo** · 2013-11-26 13:39

It was brought up in the BG PLD thread two weeks ago. I should hope someone has posted about it by now, though I'll admit that I did not.

**Taruranto** · 2013-11-26 18:45

So, I just won a Allagan Bracelets of Casting. Is it any good or should I just continue using my astral bracelet for my SMN?

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2013-11-26 19:10

Unless you need the (melded) VIT or ACC on crafted i70 accessories, i90 pretty much always wins. I think Myth bracelets are slightly better but meh, i90 is i90.

**Kirbyprime** · 2013-11-26 23:00

Pretty sure the critical healing awareness bug was brought up on the OF a while ago. It's just that it got covered in all the WAR vs PLD debate 2.0 that's been festering lately.

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2013-12-04 05:19

I have a question for parser-using SMNs here. Do pet damage/dps is already included in the SMN's result? or do I need to add pet damage on top of the SMN's damage?

Parsed my SMN and BLM, and looking at the result I cant believe what I'm seeing. There has got to be something wrong, well either that, or SMN DPS is retardedly high.

506 INT, in PT, Relic+1, 3 min parse.

Spoiler: show

476 INT, Not in PT, NQ relic, 3 min parse.

Spoiler: show

If Pet DPS + SMN DPS added, thats 19 more DPS than higher geared BLM, doesn't seem right.

**Ratatapa** · 2013-12-04 07:39

IMO you need to add both

SMN and the pet are the same person

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