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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharv View Post
    Most Scholars place far to much value on Critical Hit Rate when there is exactly one healing spell in our arsenal that gains a massive benefit from it.
    I'll agree with that. However it is literally one piece of gear (feet). Every other slot for "BiS" has PIE on it as it is. I forget how much MP = 1 PIE. Google is saying 8, so 16 PIE = ~128 MP, which = ~+25 Aetherflow and whatever that does to MP regen ticks. Worth it over 21 crit? Probably, and I've edited that list now to reflect inconclusiveness.

    Besides who knows how grindy it'll be to get to rank 30.

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    MP wasn't the unmet check in twintania last night. Divebombs to the face and a healer blowing a LVL 3 LB on the snakes was the unmet checks. You had mp issues for a whole hour til you learned the phases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    I'll agree with that. However it is literally one piece of gear (feet). Every other slot for "BiS" has PIE on it as it is. I forget how much MP = 1 PIE. Google is saying 8, so 16 PIE = ~128 MP, which = ~+25 Aetherflow and whatever that does to MP regen ticks. Worth it over 21 crit? Probably, and I've edited that list now to reflect inconclusiveness.

    Besides who knows how grindy it'll be to get to rank 30.
    It mostly comes down to accessories in terms of Piety being traded for something else. It is fortunate for us that most of gear does have piety on it. If I recall correctly, I remember seeing each Piety was 12.5 MP? But don't quote me on that.

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    As with every MMO ever, MP management comes with practice. We used to blow elixers to get past turn 4. Now it's a joke. You shouldn't ever have to spec for Piety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    MP wasn't the unmet check in twintania last night. Divebombs to the face and a healer blowing a LVL 3 LB on the snakes was the unmet checks. You had mp issues for a whole hour til you learned the phases.
    You make it sound like we were actually going to kill Hygenia during that one time we got past the second set of dive bombs regardless if I had blown the LB3 or not. Stop being a fool. Also it was the third or so run where I began to manage my MP far more effectively not an hour into it you little shit head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    As with every MMO ever, MP management comes with practice. We used to blow elixers to get past turn 4. Now it's a joke. You shouldn't ever have to spec for Piety.
    No one said anything about speccing for Piety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Google is saying 8, so 16 PIE = ~128 MP
    If it's anything like VIT it changes at certain thresholds

    also Hygeia is the name of the baby snakes and if you're struggling to kill those GOOD LUCK LOL

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    I meant the big snake. I thought her name was Hygenia but then again, last night is a blur at this point. Thanks for the correction, Rocl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharv View Post
    You make it sound like we were actually going to kill Hygenia during that one time we got past the second set of dive bombs regardless if I had blown the LB3 or not. Stop being a fool. Also it was the third or so run where I began to manage my MP far more effectively not an hour into it you little shit head.
    Reinforces my point. It took you no time to adjust MP management in the most difficult battle of the game during the most MP intensive phases. Without a BRD crutch. PIE is subpar.

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    I'm somewhat glad the Direwolf boots are BiS for SCH, as I was planning to be a PvP tryhard anyway so it all works out.

    Also: Pretty sure me and Rocl are da best SCH's NA. Y'all need to recognize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Reinforces my point. It took you no time to adjust MP management in the most difficult battle of the game during the most MP intensive phases. Without a BRD crutch. PIE is subpar.
    It's like talking to a brick wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    I'm somewhat glad the Direwolf boots are BiS for SCH, as I was planning to be a PvP tryhard anyway so it all works out.

    Also: Pretty sure me and Rocl are da best SCH's NA. Y'all need to recognize.
    I'm pretty certain I'm the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    I'm somewhat glad the Direwolf boots are BiS for SCH, as I was planning to be a PvP tryhard anyway so it all works out.

    Also: Pretty sure me and Rocl are da best SCH's NA. Y'all need to recognize.
    Nobody can be the best with Strategos Choker :D lol

    Feel free to send me your Allagan weapon and Allagan Gloves as you're not worthy of having them lol.

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    You found out I originally mained WHM and bought a few myth pieces then switched to SCH and am thus behind on myth tomes. Shots fired

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    I'm somewhat glad the Direwolf boots are BiS for SCH, as I was planning to be a PvP tryhard anyway so it all works out.

    Also: Pretty sure me and Rocl are da best SCH's NA. Y'all need to recognize.
    No tea no shade, but Seravi is top tier.

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    I beat T5 with a i49 ring (HQ Tourmaline penta-melded, admittedly) and melded Imperial Operative Choker cheaper to meld MND onto it than crit onto HQ Tourm. Clearly I know what I'm doing and am not just a cheap bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naiya View Post
    Nobody can be the best with Strategos Choker :D lol

    Feel free to send me your Allagan weapon and Allagan Gloves as you're not worthy of having them lol.
    He's very self-conscious of this. Making fun of him will set us back weeks farming extreme primals until he gets all of his accessories.

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    haha good that will give me a chance to catch up (and by that I mean coil will stop being a bitch and actually drop me the items I need: Book, Gloves, Ring) T_T

    Although now I could get CT Gloves/Garuda EX Ring hmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Like, I don't advocate using Spruce Pattens over i90 stuff because the MND drop sucks, but the PvP boots are same ilvl, same MND, same VIT as i90s. If either of those had Det, I'd take that in a heartbeat.
    We've been down this road (and I don't know if Allagan feet were changed), but Allagan/myth feet have PIE/SPS as stats, while Spruce Pattens can be melded with both CRT and DET, so you're comparing MND+6 to CRT+16/DET+11.