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  1. #481
    Black Guy from Predator.
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    i feel like SE seriously didn't think through giving her, and only her, Contagion. R.I.P. ifrit

  2. #482

    Certainly didn't help that they screwed up Ifrit such that his damage is less than Garuda's overall.

  3. #483
    Melee Summoner
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    Been leveling summoner now and i have couple questions about the job. Is miasma II as useless as i think it is? Can't really think of a use for it besides maybe spamming it in FATEs on a lot of mobs. How do Bane and Fester work with each other? If i use Fester first does it give all the mobs the enhanced damage when i use Bane after? If i do it in the reverse order does only the single target get the enhanced damage?

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    Black Guy from Predator.
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    All fester does is a burst damage based on the amount of dots you have on the target. Bane spreads the dots. they are not related in any other way.

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    Old Odin
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    Miasma 2 is 20 upfront potency, 10/tick for 5 ticks. Net 70. Vs 1 target it is inferior to Ruin in every way unless you hit it with Contagion (becomes net 120 potency for that 1 application). It's worth using for 2+ enemies.

    Incidentally for trash pulls I don't feel Bane is worth using for only 2 mobs; 3-4 only. For burst-down boss mechanics (Gaol/Conflag) obviously not the case.

  6. #486

    It can be handy for crowd control for things that can be weighed down due to being insta-cast but those instances are pretty few and far between.

    Nice for crowded AoE situations like T4 bugs/rooks.

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    Ridill
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    Everything above + PvP

  8. #488

    Quote Originally Posted by Gokulo View Post
    Everything above + PvP
    Miasma II is the bane of everyone's existence in PvP.

  9. #489
    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    i'm in the cool kid club now

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    Black Guy from Predator.
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    about time

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    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    RNG wasn't on my side

    also got the 5 win achievement

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    The Optimistic Asshole
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    Hit full i90 on my secondary job I still don't know how to play that well! Poor WHM is still 88 because I refuse to buy the body and head. Waiting for T2 and T4 stop being complete douches.


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    I'm sorry if this was posted in here somewhere, I just couldn't find a confirmed answer. My SMN is I80 atm and I'm just very low on Accuracy compared to my PLD 440 vs 475. I know the casting Accuracy cap is around 450, but I was told SMN wants to be around 475 as well for their pet's damage? If that is true I just am way confused about the BIS for SMN posted last page.

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    Google consensus seems to be around 440-450 for pets on the final tier of coil.

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    Still trying to decide between Allagan shoes and CT shoes... makes my head hurt.

    Allagan: Vit+18 MND+18 Pie+11 SSpeed+21

    Royal Shoes: Vit+15 MND+15 Crit+13 Pie+13

    On the one hand I like the Crit on the CT shoes, crit is nice to have for adloquium. On the other hand, Allagan gives me almost 50 HP more and is just ilvl90.

    Who thought that a silly ilv number could give me such a headache. xD

  16. #496
    Old Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andradi View Post
    Google consensus seems to be around 440-450 for pets on the final tier of coil.
    Yeah, 432? is fine for the SMN (same as BLM iirc) but pet needs a little more for perfect accuracy, if you care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buttons View Post
    Still trying to decide between Allagan shoes and CT shoes... makes my head hurt.

    Allagan: Vit+18 MND+18 Pie+11 SSpeed+21

    Royal Shoes: Vit+15 MND+15 Crit+13 Pie+13

    On the one hand I like the Crit on the CT shoes, crit is nice to have for adloquium. On the other hand, Allagan gives me almost 50 HP more and is just ilvl90.

    Who thought that a silly ilv number could give me such a headache. xD
    I'd go for the i90 any day, sadly. 13 crit is not enough weight to consider over 3 MND/VIT.

    Edit: v Very true, although I'd prefer myth feet over Allagan feet for SCH anyways.

  17. #497

    The nice thing about Royal hands/feet is that they are excellent placeholders for Allagan, so you don't have to wear gimpass DL gear while waiting for them to drop and you don't have to spend mytho on AF2.

  18. #498
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    There are few things I regret, and spending mythology on shoes and getting coil pants is definitely one of them.

  19. #499
    Relic Shield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttons View Post
    Still trying to decide between Allagan shoes and CT shoes... makes my head hurt.

    Allagan: Vit+18 MND+18 Pie+11 SSpeed+21

    Royal Shoes: Vit+15 MND+15 Crit+13 Pie+13

    On the one hand I like the Crit on the CT shoes, crit is nice to have for adloquium. On the other hand, Allagan gives me almost 50 HP more and is just ilvl90.

    Who thought that a silly ilv number could give me such a headache. xD
    3 MND beats out 13 Crit for base healing, and it's only giving you about 1% more crits on Adlo. Take the Allagan.

  20. #500
    Sea Torques
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    What does SMN "BIS" look like now, without access to T5 gear? Or I guess an easier question is, what secondary stats does SMN want the most of? ACC (to cap) > Det > Crit > SpSp?

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