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    Côme on whms new bis go

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    i90: Omnirod (PIE28/crit26) > Thyrus Zenith (det26/speed26) > Direwolf (speed37)

    i80: Titan (PIE23/det16) > Thyrus (det23/speed23)

    I dunno if I'd say for absolute certain that Zenith loses to extreme, but if you don't have Zenith I'd definitely consider just getting Omnirod.

    Otherwise kind of copypasting what I wrote for SCH in the SCH/SMN thread, substituting Cleric pieces. Same as SCH, I think the only notable new pieces are Vortex Ring and Direwolf boots.

    Head: Allagan (PIE16/crit15) > Myth (PIE16/speed15) > Direwolf (speed21)
    Body: Allagan (PIE26/det17) ~= Direwolf (crit34) > Myth (PIE26/speed24)
    Hands: Allagan (PIE16/crit15) > Myth (PIE16/speed15) > Direwolf (det15)
    Waist: Myth (PIE8/crit16) > Direwolf (crit16) > Allagan (PIE12/speed11)
    Legs: Myth (PIE26/det17) > Direwolf (det24) ~= Allagan (PIE18/speed34)
    Feet: Myth (PIE11/det15) ~= Direwolf (crit21) > Allagan (PIE11/speed21)

    Neck: Myth (PIE12/crit11) > Allagan (PIE8/det11) > Direwolf (det11)
    Ear: Myth (PIE8/crit16) > Allagan (PIE12/det8) > Tremor (PIE8/speed16) > Direwolf (speed16)
    Wrist: Myth (PIE12/crit11) > Inferno (PIE8/det11) > Allagan (PIE8/speed16) > Direwolf (speed16)
    Ring1: Myth (PIE8/crit16)
    Ring2: Allagan (PIE12/det8) = Vortex (det11/speed11) = Direwolf (crit16)


    i80 stuff I'd recommend upping to, from Darklight. Ideally you'd want to upgrade all your i70 to i80 but lol lockouts
    Royal Celestial Gloves (PIE9/crit19)
    Royal Sash (PIE10/det7, direct DL upgrade)
    Royal Shoes (PIE13/crit13)
    Ultima Band of Healing (PIE7/speed14, direct DL upgrade)

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    Apparently during the "Read the patch notes together" stream, Yoshida said next weel the allagan item stat changes will be reverted to pre 2.1 stats. Too bad for healers I guess, yay for smn!

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    Won't change much

    2.0 circlet was already bis for whm

    Sch is sad since we loose crit but it's the same stats as myth so meh

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    Tempted to just go for full spell speed, should be able to hit nearly 600 with food with ideal gear. I know the difference isn't that great (even 600 is only like -10% casting and GCD) but everything other than MND scales terribly for WHM anyway.

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    Did some light crunching for a SMN friend a few weeks ago, gear set we came up with was +154 spell speed (from the 341 base, total 495), which should reduce GCD to ~2.35s-ish (rough conversion: 10 speed = -0.01s). 600ish speed would be somewhere around 2.25. Probably a little better since it's probably not linear. I don't know if I'd ever recommend it though. Spells don't really need to hit/get out faster even for curespamming. Better to time pre-heals with more kick to them (det with a minor in crit, or vice-versa)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    i90: Omnirod (PIE28/crit26) > Thyrus Zenith (det26/speed26) > Direwolf (speed37)
    According to the WHM spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0), Thyrus Zenith comes out ahead over Omnirod. This is assuming his formulas are correct.

    He doesn't have Omnirod in the spreadsheet, but it's easy enough to add in with a basic knowledge of Excel.

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    Yeah, I wasn't sure if PIE was something WHMs were interested in more than what Zenith gives. Either way if you're tight on myth, don't have Zenith already, and can get a group that kills extremes I'd just get Omnirod anyways.

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    How would you guys spend your myths if you may end up downing EX? I have Allagan hands and feet but no +1.

    Pants > belt > ring ?

    Possibly body + head if T2/4 continue being stingy after belt?

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    I'm making my WHM my second well geared class(behind my DRG), and I'm wondering where I need to focus my Myth purchases, and pick-ups from CT?

    I was thinking Zenith > WHM head/CT body > WHM feet > WHM hands > WHM legs > WHM body?
    I don't have a coil group with my erratic schedule(especially during the holidays), so I'm just trying to figure out a purchase plan for myself.

    Currently all DL except Strategos neck, belt, earring, ring, and Thyrus NQ.

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    Personally I went with the aesthetic route. I think as a WHM it's more important to look pretty.

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    Zenith > myth legs > myth ring/myth boots

    Hopefully by then you'll have gotten coil head, body, hands, or something. Prioritize by coil drops after those pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephir View Post
    How would you guys spend your myths if you may end up downing EX? I have Allagan hands and feet but no +1.

    Pants > belt > ring ?

    Possibly body + head if T2/4 continue being stingy after belt?
    I did Pants > Feet > Belt > Head. Since you already have i90 feet, I'd skip them for now if I was in your shoes. I did head because I had body from T4, but T2 was being stingy and I got tired of running around in a Strategos Coif. Upgrading ring is fine if you're currently using Darklight/Strategos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dathus View Post
    I'm making my WHM my second well geared class(behind my DRG), and I'm wondering where I need to focus my Myth purchases, and pick-ups from CT?

    I was thinking Zenith > WHM head/CT body > WHM feet > WHM hands > WHM legs > WHM body?
    I don't have a coil group with my erratic schedule(especially during the holidays), so I'm just trying to figure out a purchase plan for myself.

    Currently all DL except Strategos neck, belt, earring, ring, and Thyrus NQ.
    Aesthetics aside, I would do zenith weapon > legs > feet > other stuff.

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    If your character is male prepare to be unpleasantly surprised when combining allagan body and myth legs.

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    Let me guess. Short shorts?

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    What myth accessories are Best-in-Slot and shared by both SCH and WHM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dathus View Post
    Let me guess. Short shorts?
    You'll be healing in boxers, so at least you'll be healing in comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    What myth accessories are Best-in-Slot and shared by both SCH and WHM?
    I'd do ring and belt first. Ring is obvious since you can wear 2 rings. Belt has VIT and I think it actually is BIS for both jobs, but I know dick about SCH other than they get a hardon for CRIT.

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    SCH's BiS is like Myth every single slot except Weapon, Head (identical to Allagan once they change it back), Hands, Legs (identical), and Feet are a tossup (5 PIE on myth vs 5 spell speed on Allagan). All of the Myth/Hero jewelry+belt we like.

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    For new BIS would you agree that

    Inferno bangles > Hero's Bracelet
    and for ring

    Vortex + allagan?

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