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    Quote Originally Posted by Spira View Post
    such a rush job. so many typos and mistakes in the website..
    Am I the only one getting both a french and english description for Woh gates?


    Also that tp feed thing makes me sad. I mean really 10 tp per shot with no native subtle blow or gear with it that is useable is too powerful to lower? More importantly who in SE thinks a single blu spell giving the mob 80 tp is balanced lol

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    There was another tiger type of mob supposed to be added from the artwork. It looked like a smiliron or whatever but more tigery.

    http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1130/vrbn.png

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    Their recent RME post seems to indicate that they intend to upgrade RMEs concurrently with further iLevel cap increases rather than at a 6 month delay (like this time). Also, they seem comfortable with the idea that RMEs will be important forever and are looking into solving the problem of getting them to 99. Me gusta.

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    Wow they completely changed their stance on rme upgrades. Interesting, but I hope they still know what they're doing and aren't just going along with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seha View Post
    Wow they completely changed their stance on rme upgrades. Interesting, but I hope they still know what they're doing and aren't just going along with it.
    Well, if they want 99s to be reasonably attainable in the current environment, they can make whatever adjustments are necessary. It's on the players to provide feedback, and understand they might not get it right the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    Khimaira has a lion's face and this is a lion, what were you expecting? They chose a lion, they already had a big part-lion mob. They resemble each other, but they're hardly the same.
    Im sorry, but compared to the other 5, how can you say thats NOT a reskin?
    Ceizak: it may be a blimped bee, but its definately got lots of extra work on it tocall it unique
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/3/3a/Colkhab.png
    vs
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/6/62/Category-Bee.jpg

    Morimar: unique, there is no other t-rex model in the game

    Foret: unique, there are no other sharks in the game, the only other fish I can think of are pugils.

    Marjami: unique, unless you are comparing hurkan to tulfaires or rocs or birds

    Yorcia: unique, unless you're trying to compare these two as being the same
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/c/c0/Yumcax.png
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/7/7...ory-Treant.jpg


    Sorry i said 6 and 7 before, should have been 5 and 6. Either way, compared to what weve had before, this is a reskin, adding some crystal/ice armor to its ass, shoulders and paws doesnt make it 'unique'

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    First off, as the item level of equipment increases, we will continue to upgrade RME in the future at the same time that we add other alternatives at that item level.
    Ahawhawhaw, our whining and ragequits have paid off.

    http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/ima...dealwithit.gif

    In all seriousness I recall Matsui saying when he first came in that he wanted to take a look at how much TP enemies were gaining during battle. Hope he's still doing that. It's still crazy to have monsters in high-character events endlessly spam abilities and have subtle blow being a band-aid for high 1H TP feed rather than making them being lower TP feeders which was the intent.

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    It's interesting how Matsui views RMEs now. If he wants to implement his true vision of vertical progression, he'll have to wait until he's put in charge of another game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    . Either way, compared to what weve had before, this is a reskin, adding some crystal/ice armor to its ass, shoulders and paws doesnt make it 'unique'
    Just because something is relatively more similar to something else doesn't make it a reskin. Lions have been called the king of the beasts for hundreds of years, and as such there could not be a more fitting choice to base their beast Naakual upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Im sorry, but compared to the other 5, how can you say thats NOT a reskin?
    Ceizak: it may be a blimped bee, but its definately got lots of extra work on it tocall it unique

    Morimar: unique, there is no other t-rex model in the game

    Foret: unique, there are no other sharks in the game, the only other fish I can think of are pugils.

    Marjami: unique, unless you are comparing hurkan to tulfaires or rocs or birds

    Yorcia: unique, unless you're trying to compare these two as being the same

    Sorry i said 6 and 7 before, should have been 5 and 6. Either way, compared to what weve had before, this is a reskin, adding some crystal/ice armor to its ass, shoulders and paws doesnt make it 'unique'
    Pretty sure, or maybe it's just me but Yumcax feels 100% like a Kraken, from eye-level-torso down to the roots, the way it hovers, moves and it's melee pattern attacks. Some of it's TP moves even resemble whirlwind physical animation.

    Haven't fought Bismarck in a long time, but I wouldn't be surpised if they just changed size/skin but kept the same movement for Daquwaka.

    Although everything I mentioned-- is just looking to much into it, since they do have a completly new looks/body proportions unlike the new lion's new skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    It's interesting how Matsui views RMEs now. If he wants to implement his true vision of vertical progression, he'll have to wait until he's put in charge of another game.
    It was a foregone conclusion. There's a decade's worth of sampling bias working against him changing the reward structure of this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Just because something is relatively more similar to something else doesn't make it a reskin. Lions have been called the king of the beasts for hundreds of years, and as such there could not be a more fitting choice to base their beast Naakual upon.
    I think it's fine in this case, but I don't see how you can argue it isn't a reskin. It's not just 'similar to' the khimera model, it literally is the khimera model with a few small modifications and a recolor.

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    I want you to actually go into model viewer and look at a Khimara.

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    I can't believe they made the lion look like a lion wow rip off

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    People complain about reskins everytime something new is added, not surprised.

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    once again, because you're clearly intent on bandwagoning some animosity towards me.

    Ceizak:
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/3/3a/Colkhab.png
    looks nothing like
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/6/62/Category-Bee.jpg

    Morimar:
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/thu...0px-Achuka.png
    looks nothing like
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/thu...ory-Raptor.jpg
    or
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/thu...ory-Bugard.jpg

    Foret:
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/thu...-Rockfin_1.png
    is probably based off the skeleton of this, but both look completely fucking different
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/c/c0/Bismarck.jpg

    Marjami:
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/d/d2/Hurkan.png
    looks nothing like
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/9/9...eater_Bird.jpg
    or
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/9/9...ry-Harpeia.jpg
    or
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/0/0...esser_Bird.jpg
    or
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/5/5...-Tulfaires.jpg
    NONE OF THEM

    Yorcia:
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/d/d...-Yggdreant.jpg
    looks nothing like
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/7/7...ory-Treant.jpg
    If anything, its skeleton is probably based off this, but there was a lot of work done on it as well
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/7/7...gory-Yovra.jpg


    New ice area:

    looks EXACTLY like this
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/2/2...y-Khimaira.jpg
    Except they cut its wings off (or moved them down to be part of the shoulder ice armor) and added ice armor to its ass, shoulders and paws. oh and took off the horns


    I'm just saying, after the first 5 getting unique models, this just feels like "well you insisted we move our skeleton crew to other things, so this is what you get". Who knows, maybe they tried making a new badass lion lookin model, and everything came down to lookin like khim, so why re-invent the wheel. And I'm okay with that, because like you said, "theres already a lion model in the game", but dont tell me I'm a fucking retard and say thats not a khim reskin, when its a fucking khim reskin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    once again, because you're clearly intent on bandwagoning some animosity towards me.
    Putting aside the fact that you take everything way too personally, it's language like this that is being disagreed with:

    looks EXACTLY like this
    If you were saying "I'm sad that they picked an animal type that is similar to something else in-game" then that would be fine.

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    Looking at the art again.
    Spoiler: show


    I didn't look close enough. I can't even consider it a Bion/Lear.
    At least when/if new delves arrive it will be more menacing.

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    They also added a different tail, removed the spines from its back, changed its paws to have four toes instead of three, added ears, and it looks like they altered the body proportions as well to make it look more compact and muscular instead of the leaner looking khimaira. What the hell are you expecting? it's a motherfucking lion, a khimaira is a composite of animals, its got a lions head, why do you insist on the lion being different face wise from khimaira when that would create inconsistencies in the game? If the lion looked too much different, people would be wondering why the lion part of khimaira looks so different from an actual lion, when its supposed to be part lion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Putting aside the fact that you take everything way too personally, it's language like this that is being disagreed with:

    If you were saying "I'm sad that they picked an animal type that is similar to something else in-game" then that would be fine.
    Hang on...let me try something. I'm gonna show this pic to people who've stopped playing and do the "word association" game.

    AKA: post it in the XIV threads (im not gonna do that lol)

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