DISCUSSION: 11/04/2013 Version Update

[Byrthnoth]

So remaining drops:
Enedron Glasses - probably Dismemberment Brigade (originally drops Spectacles)
Legato Dagger - Factory Rejects would have made sense (because it drops Jongleur's Dagger) but has been reported to drop from Kindred Spirits
Pentalagus Charm - probably Tails of Woe
Boor Bracelets - probably Demolition Squad
Kaidate - probably Demolition Squad
Earthcry Mantle - Confirmed from Worm's Turn
Laktisma Leggings - Likely Dismemberment Brigade? Poisonhand was an Orc.
Waterfall Ring
Wuji Ring
Icecrack Ring
Jwalamukhi Ring
Dawn Earring
Litany Clogs
Sors Shield
Savior Mantle
Ovate Rope
Aiwon Gauntlets
Gnafron's Adargas
Pinion Cesti
Blitto Needle
Mindmeld Kris
Secespita
Surcouf's Jambiya
Kheshig Blade
Predatrice
Tabahi Fleuret
Vivifiante
Medicor Sword
Antician Axe - Probably Legion XI Come...whatever
Hurlbat
Parashu
Last Rest
Anaimatos Scythe - Probably Kindred Spirits (looks like V.Scythe)
Agilis Lance - Probably the Sahagin one?
Concido Couse
Sibat
Habukatana
Magorokuhocho
Bukyoku
Kiikanemitsu
Boonwell Staff
Surma Staff
Patriarch Cane
Phulax Bow
One-eyed - Sounds like Dismemberment Brigade
Qasama Hexagun


Huani Collar - Probably a WKR? Likely Bee
Tardus Grip - This is the only unknown R/Ex item.

[gaira]

can confirm legato dagger from kindred spirits, hard difficulty

[Sechs]

Dumb questions since it would have been known by now, but I suppose the datmine of the last patch showed no new levels of Fame available, correct?

[Byrthnoth]

.dats wouldn't be able to tell you that. Fame has been able to go up to rank 9 since day 0 of Adoulin: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Iyvah_Halohm

I'm currently rank 5 by that list. I've done every quest at least once and some quests ~5-10 times.

[Sechs]

Ah lame =/ then rank 6 *could* be possible, but repeatable quests in Adoulin are pretty annoying so far (3 of them? 4? With a week cooldown?)

[dasva]

It may or may not be possible but there is currently not much in the way of benefit to having more fame and by the time there is benefit there will be quests that get you there easy

[Capuchin]

So, how would one account for Quiahuiz Leggings "increase DA damage" (5%, I understand) on Byrth's spreadsheet?

Figuring they probably trump my R15 Mani/Otronif (crit +1%)/Iuitl (some ranged augment) options in at least some scenarios...

[Damane]

So, how would one account for Quiahuiz Leggings "increase DA damage" (5%, I understand) on Byrth's spreadsheet?

Figuring they probably trump my R15 Mani/Otronif (crit +1%)/Iuitl (some ranged augment) options in at least some scenarios...

I am not sure on this one, does the dmg increase only apply to double attacks and not on triple/quadrupel attacks? I am not sure on this part, if it really only affects double attacks and not triple/quadruple attacks its pritty much worhtless.

[Capuchin]

I am not sure on this one, does the dmg increase only apply to double attacks and not on triple/quadrupel attacks? I am not sure on this part, if it really only affects double attacks and not triple/quadruple attacks its pritty much worhtless.

I haven't actually tested or seen testing, but it seems like a safe assumption that the increase DA damage does indeed apply only to DA (and not TA/QA when that procs).

But regardless of whether it would be better if it applied to other multi-attacks, DA is still very significant for most the jobs that can use these legs. /WAR sub, Fighter's Roll, Bladeborn/Steelflash, Thaumas Coat, Epona's, Mani feet, Skirmish DA augments, Letalis and Atheling mantles, etc... Maybe mathing it out will show that it doesn't end up being the best option (comparing is precisely why I want to play around with it on spreadsheets), but clearly isn't a BAD piece - "worthless" sounds waaaay too strong just because it's a damage boost "only" to DA procs.

[noodles355]

They're pretty close anyway (r15 mani, assuming str path), excluding the DA damage it's like 2str vs 5att if you don't need the acc (do you? haven't played since iLevel update but assuming not with all the mad skill+). The DA damage boost wouldn't need to add much to put them ahead.

Edit: against the aforementioned Otronif, it's also 15att ahead before you add in the DA bonus, seems like a solid trade off for 1% crit. His Iuitl have some ranged augment he said so they handily beat those too.

[dasva]

So the update notes mentioned new transportation around places. And given the text I get when I click a Survival guide I found in Xarc I assume it's this. So any clues on where they all are?

[Byrthnoth]

Looks like they still neglected to fix the jobs on Bismuth Bolt/Raaz Arrow. I hope COR can get some real use out of that ammo.

[Alistaire]

Tardus Grip - This is the only unknown R/Ex item.

Obviously this is obtained by travelling back in time to WotG and getting sucked through space via doomvoid into the sandworm nm fights.

[Kyreth]

With today's update, SE fixed the names on 17 previously unnamed items, and Hexed Jacket -1 who's name was removed. They have now been added.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/November_...date_New_Items

And it's a whole bunch of -1 weapons. Perhaps we're looking at the beginnings of Adoulin's AF weapon upgrades (not RME-style, but AF style), as they neatly cover all the slots -except- the two jobs with Adoulin-level AF weaponry?

[Julian]

And it's a whole bunch of -1 weapons. Perhaps we're looking at the beginnings of Adoulin's AF weapon upgrades (not RME-style, but AF style), as they neatly cover all the slots -except- the two jobs with Adoulin-level AF weaponry?

They're for the new WOE trials.

[Kyreth]

Obviously this is obtained by travelling back in time to WotG and getting sucked through space via doomvoid into the sandworm nm fights.

The grip is bigger on the inside.

[Kyreth]

They're for the new WOE trials.

Bah. I had hopes. I'd like to see them revisit our old stuff like Marauder's Knife like they have our classic AF gear.

[dasva]

So um what exactly do you unlock the empyrean ws? I went to the moogle in woe and it put the ws on the weapon but not full unlock. What I missing?

[Ihina]

So um what exactly do you unlock the empyrean ws? I went to the moogle in woe and it put the ws on the weapon but not full unlock. What I missing?

Trade your weapon to the sparklies after you select it from the menu.

[Lyramion]

So um what exactly do you unlock the empyrean ws? I went to the moogle in woe and it put the ws on the weapon but not full unlock. What I missing?

Zone once for it to show up