The Official Forum fail thread: This game wasn't meant for alts.

[Edelweiss]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ou-lose-loot.?

Void Ark is very serious business.

[BaneTheBrawler]

to be fair, the replies are all "why?"

[FHT]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ing-this-game-!

im suggessting a small thing ( and im

sorry SE for calling some stuff here stupid ..but im not going to do the same thing everyday for sex

months to get collection of gears )

Just found the spelling quite poisonous.

[Destinye]

Think most people would be less uptight if they did stuff for sex months.

[Alistaire]

Nice typo. idk about "poisonous" though o.O

[BaneTheBrawler]

idk looks pretty toxic to me, should be banned

[FHT]

idk looks pretty toxic to me, should be banned

Well it was deleted!

[Alistaire]

That just means they were right.

[Destinye]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ith-it-anymore

This first reply though...
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3452129

You can't say you don't need BIS because you don't raid, I don't do raids I don't do static but I still want BIS.

I'll never understand the mentality of needing the best gear just to step on a cockroach.

[Tarli]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ith-it-anymore

This first reply though...
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3452129



I'll never understand the mentality of needing the best gear just to step on a cockroach.

Well, to be fair, the section you quoted only says he wants the best gear, not that he needs it. That said, we all know you need super good gear to clear anything if you suck at your job. Otherwise nothing out right now would even need Eso gear.

[Kakashisensei]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...atory-Missions (This is about how the Diadem currently work)



Is that so? Oh... Haha.. Hahaha... Hahahahahaha....

Edit:

On top, someone posted what I would call a well writen criticism related to the direction this game is taking, the OP was banned and his thread deleted. One of his friend posted a second thread to talk about it here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-game-is-going and it will probably be deleted as well.

As for the original OP, here it is: http://fr.scribd.com/doc/291071149/F...nt-of-the-Game

Yep, I'm the OP of the second thread, it was deleted and I was banned. Though, my friend was unbanned, so, I guess I got what I wanted?

[Lujei]

I was posting in that thread in support of your friend.

I'm glad they were unbanned, they didn't deserve it.

[haroldsaxon]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ith-it-anymore

This first reply though...
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3452129



I'll never understand the mentality of needing the best gear just to step on a cockroach.

"Wah wah wah elitist raiders want the best gear"

"I want the best gear but raiding is elitist and toxic so i don't do it"

Its not that raiding is elitist and toxic, its that they want to be spoonfed and handed out rewards for being lazy and doing nothing.

[FHT]

Yep, I'm the OP of the second thread, it was deleted and I was banned. Though, my friend was unbanned, so, I guess I got what I wanted?

I am sorry because you were banned due to your post, its good to be able to read construcive criticism on the OF once in a while, as for your friend congratulation to him.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ith-it-anymore

This first reply though...
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3452129

The OP's drama is the one I posted a month or so ago, with this FC buying players from the rival FC, with Paypal transactions.

I'll never understand the mentality of needing the best gear just to step on a cockroach.

I will never understand this mentality of caring about what other people have or this need to show that you cleared X thing, we're on internet and no one really gives a damn about who clear what, some want different means to gear up in the current highest iLv (this was the case of Butcherboy if you read the full phrase) because what if you don't like the 8 men template of raid? I personally don't because I will spend more time trying to replace 1 - 2 ppl all the time rather than progressing.

[haroldsaxon]

I am sorry because you were banned due to your post, its good to be able to read construcive criticism on the OF once in a while, as for your friend congratulation to him.



The OP's drama is the one I posted a month or so ago, with this FC buying players from the rival FC, with Paypal transactions.

Wasn't that the Ragnarok one? I hoped it would get its own thread here, it was far more juicy than the LBR/Reddit stuff

[FHT]

It was, but the thing seems to have calmed down a bit now.

Edit: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rk-gear./page2

I would love to see this happen, whatever if this is tied to something casual friendly or hardcore, I got the tank legs on Tuesday and holy crap at these +Det/crit, I'd definitly want that as i210.

[haroldsaxon]

Could do with some interesting drama, but about the only thing I've got is some guy from my old FC is stalking me on Reddit and sending PM's to people

[KCem]

It was, but the thing seems to have calmed down a bit now.

Edit: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rk-gear./page2

I would love to see this happen, whatever if this is tied to something casual friendly or hardcore, I got the tank legs on Tuesday and holy crap at these +Det/crit, I'd definitly want that as i210.

I don't think it's a terrible idea either. The playerbase has shown via Diadem that simply higher level gear is incentive enough to do easier content over and over. And as it's a catch up patch the reasoning behind introducing lower level gear eludes me, even for "secondary" jobs, which I've been able to get a few 210's for through Diadem anyway. The raid purists have 3 months to compete for world firsts and establish themselves as server best raiders, and now with catch up patch, the rest of us should be able to do just that.

[haroldsaxon]

I don't think it's a terrible idea either. The playerbase has shown via Diadem that simply higher level gear is incentive enough to do easier content over and over. And as it's a catch up patch the reasoning behind introducing lower level gear eludes me, even for "secondary" jobs, which I've been able to get a few 210's for through Diadem anyway. The raid purists have 3 months to compete for world firsts and establish themselves as server best raiders, and now with catch up patch, the rest of us should be able to do just that.

I would like it aswell. I also think Void Ark should give accessories. The only thing i'm against with the i210 in diadem was the ability for them to be RNG BiS - the gear should be rarer, and more balanced secondary stat wise.

[Hitoseijuro]

No, I personaly would like a system where you can learn/augment abilities via gearset, new materias increasing crit/double attack/PTC with a % factor, even if its only 3-5% and a job merit system allowing you to add nice/enhanced effect/potencies to your abilities, FFXIV will not be an FF nor a good MMO as long as we don't have anything coming close to this (example.) Thats not asking for everything, its asking for a decent MMO customisation system.

See Shadow Wall? DMG taken -30%, whats so shadow-ish about it? Its just a Shadow of Vengence, nothing more.. lol

I wouldn't mind them bringing in a "merit" style of adding to your abilities like they add in 11. I would like that they give more options to it though.

Defensive abilities like sentinel, youd have the option of increasing duration, decreasing cooldown or increasing the %.

Offensive abilities : you could decrease the TP/mana cost, increase potency, unlock a unique effect, increase the duration.

This wouldnt solve job diversity but just diversity among others of the same job.

The only problem with diversity is that there is not if there is always going to be one "efficient" way of doing something.

I mean until a raid can constantly wipe a tank line over and over, DPS priority will always be more effecient for tanks once they reach a survival thresh hold, dps will always prioritize dps, and healers apparently wont cast protect(go figure)...

11 didnt have much diversity either if you come to think of it, all dps jobs did the same thing, TP--> WS ---> TP---> WS. Casters , nuked--> occasional stun--> gained mana --> rinse repeat.

I think tanks had a nice diversity in 11 though early on, because of how they would tank wouldnt always be the same, pld tanked differently than a ninja did, rdm and drk while some what similiar in their enmity spells, still tanked differently, sam and monk tanks were different than the others, I want to say thf tanks were also a thing at certain occasions.

Blue was probably one of the few that were diverse over the other jobs imo, both in dps and tanking. I stopped playing before Geo/Rune came out so I cant comment on that.

I want to say Aion has good diversity, maybe GW2 between job/classes. Havent played WoW but I would assume so as well.

I dont think SE is very good with diversity because they recycle everything they possibly can......everything.