According to a Reinheart translation, CT will have a lockout of 1 looted item per week

[Soul Side]

You're guaranteed to get a piece of gear a week, that is AWESOME. Coil guarantees nothing and almost always gives nothing.

If you put ketchup on a shit sandwich its still a shit sandwich.

ketchup - guaranteed drop

sandwich - week lockout on inferior gear

[Deadgye]

Did they make any specific mention of everyone else passing it to one person? If there is a way to game the system then there is hope yet.

選択したコマンドに関わらず、ドロップ品を手に入れた冒険者は、それ以降NEEDとGREEDが選べないようになること

選択したコマンドに関わらず

Regardless of the command selected

[layoneil]

yea but 7 people passing and one person not selecting a command means no command was selected. does that item drop to the ground cause the 8th person didn't make a choice?

[Seravi Edalborez]

This being SE I would strongly assume the flag is keyed to "item falls into inventory" and not "selected Need/Greed". So yeah, make sure you pass shit if you're eyeing loot I guess.

[Voyage1970]

The way they mention that it "prevents you from pressing Need or Greed" makes me think it doesn't lock you from obtaining loot so much as just locks you from lotting it. Even if their intention is to prevent loot from being obtained period, if this is the method they go about implementing then it's a huge oversight on how the lotting system works and frankly is an error in our favor.

[Deadgye]

WAIT

YOU CAN'T SELEECT NEED OR GREED

THAT MEANS YOU CAN STILL NOT PASS

FUCK EVERYTHING THIS IS PERFECT GUYS

IF YOU'RE WITH A PARTY OF 7 FRIENDS YOU CAN JUST HAVE THEM ALL PASS AND YOU GET IT

[Soul Side]

This being SE I would strongly assume the flag is keyed to "item falls into inventory" and not "selected Need/Greed". So yeah, make sure you pass shit if you're eyeing loot I guess.

So if something drops that no one wants its going to be a race to pass to screw the 8th into wasting their lockout on it.

Since its SE I could see this making it to live, but it will be patched to fall to no one soon after launch.

[Yukari]

So if something drops that no one wants its going to be a race to pass to screw the 8th into wasting their lockout on it.

Since its SE I could see this making it to live, but it will be patched to fall soon after launch.

IIRC, items don't fall unless if everyone passes/lots or if time runs out, so if all 8 people want to pass, they can all pass, and the item will floor. The only time it'll auto-drop is when the chest timer runs out.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Passing doesn't work that way in XIV. If one person is undecided and the rest pass, it doesn't drop to that person until the (however many minutes) timer wears off.

e: beaten

[Voyage1970]

THAT MEANS YOU CAN STILL NOT PASS

In before once the lockout is in place it auto-passes everything on your character, trolol.

So if something drops that no one wants its going to be a race to pass to screw the 8th into wasting their lockout on it.

Since its SE I could see this making it to live, but it will be patched to fall soon after launch.

Unless I'm mistaken even if everyone else passes you still have to wait for the loot timer to count down before it goes to the person who didn't pass. Barring flat out exiting the instance so the only person on the loot table is that person, I don't see how you could force someone to get a drop unless they wanted it.

Edit: Beaten many times fml

[lilbubbles]

And this is superior to no lockout and as much gear as you want?

Obviously it would be nice to get as much gear as I want, but some people are acting everyone is going to be full in coil gear before ct and that isn't the case except for a select lucky few who don't get dragoon every week.

[Soul Side]

IIRC, items don't fall unless if everyone passes/lots or if time runs out, so if all 8 people want to pass, they can all pass, and the item will floor. The only time it'll auto-drop is when the chest timer runs out.

Ah, only time this ever happens to me is WP last boss so I assumed it was instant. Always having to clean out the shitty dl weapons from my inventory.

[lilbubbles]

The only way you can force a drop on someone btw is for all but that person to leave the duty. This happens in WP a lot, we like to open the chest at the end and make someone get stuck with a drop they have to throw away.

So if you don't pass or leave before everyone leaves, you can get stuck with a drop.

[Deadgye]

In before once the lockout is in place it auto-passes everything on your character, trolol.

If this happens, then fuck them and fuck everything. But currently the Japanese specifically says that you'll become unable to choose NEED and GREED. If they were going to auto roll 0 then I'm pretty sure they would have worded it differently.

So if you don't pass or leave before everyone leaves, you can get stuck with a drop.

This is going to suck incredibly when it inevitable happens.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Ah, only time this ever happens to me is WP last boss so I assumed it was instant. Always having to clean out the shitty dl weapons from my inventory.

That'll happen if the other 3 people leave the instance.

e: fuckbeaten again

[Voyage1970]

If this happens, then fuck them and fuck everything. But currently the Japanese specifically says that you'll become unable to choose NEED and GREED. If they were going to auto roll 0 then I'm pretty sure they would have worded it differently.

True, but technically once you pass you are unable to hit Need or Greed so it is possible with the way they worded it and in fact would be a simple measure to make it so Need and Greed are unclickable. I would much rather be proven wrong though. *knocks on wood*

[Soul Side]

That'll happen if the other 3 people leave the instance.

e: fuckbeaten again

Yes I know.

[layoneil]

The way they mention that it "prevents you from pressing Need or Greed" makes me think it doesn't lock you from obtaining loot so much as just locks you from lotting it. Even if their intention is to prevent loot from being obtained period, if this is the method they go about implementing then it's a huge oversight on how the lotting system works and frankly is an error in our favor.

and after they figure it out, they will start hitting people with the ban hammer.

[Kuishen]

You're guaranteed to get a piece of gear a week, that is AWESOME. Coil guarantees nothing and almost always gives nothing.

Explain to me where exactly it says that you're guaranteed to get a piece of gear that YOU need? It could be exactly like Coil where 2 things drop from each boss but what pieces drop are completely randomized, in which case this is actually worse than Coil because now you can only lot on one thing per week.

I'm sorry that RNG has screwed you over in Coil but to say the lockout on this is awesome is absolutely retarded. Especially when you saying that is based on wild assumptions that, to my knowledge, have no basis.

[layoneil]

Explain to me where exactly it says that you're guaranteed to get a piece of gear that YOU need? It could be exactly like Coil where 2 things drop from each boss but what pieces drop are completely randomized, in which case this is actually worse than Coil because now you can only lot on one thing per week.

I'm sorry that RNG has screwed you over in Coil but to say the lockout on this is awesome is absolutely retarded.

because you have to actually win the lot for it to count, if you don't win your roll you go back in 50x until you do.