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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Is this wrong? Were the warnings not pushed to area cell phones?


    https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07...-forecast-nws/

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    https://www.npr.org/2025/07/05/nx-s1...loods-timeline
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    No part of that article says they didn't send out alerts via text.
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    https://www.kxan.com/investigations/...-other-cities/

    The city where the camp was held didn't have a weather warning system, like tornado sirens, and issued their alert via Facebook. None of the campers had electronic devices as they were not allowed. If there was a text alert, no one was able to receive it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://www.kxan.com/investigations/...-other-cities/

    The city where the camp was held didn't have a weather warning system, like tornado sirens, and issued their alert via Facebook. None of the campers had electronic devices as they were not allowed. If there was a text alert, no one was able to receive it.
    The camp couselors and administrators weren't allowed to have cell phones?

    Very doubtful

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    The camp couselors and administrators weren't allowed to have cell phones?

    Very doubtful

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    So why didn't they get the weather alert to move to higher ground?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    So why didn't they get the weather alert to move to higher ground?
    Did they not?

    Or did they sleep through it? The imminent flooding alerts were in the middle of the night.

    It's just hard when things get really bad really fast in the middle of the night. This reminds me a ton of the Altadena fire, where it unexpectedly swept west through town at like 3am.

    I'm open to the idea that emergency cell alerts weren't actually sent in that area, but I haven't seen evidence that's the case.

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    The Camp Mystic website is down due to massive traffic, but everything i have been able to find suggests counselors were allowed phones that could take photos and video, but not connect to the internet.

    As for weather alerts, there was a flood watch for the area that had expired at 10 pm the night before. A county official had gone for a run a couple of hours before the rain came through and reported that they thought there was no chance for a storm to happen. Too dry.
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    It was a freak storm that overwhelmed a infrastructure that was inadequate to handle it. The reason they didn't have sirens in place was because the state denied their grant requests for almost two decades making the county rely solely on the internet to issue their alerts. Had sirens been in place, there would have been five minutes, at most, to alert those affected to move to safety. Those dead and missing represent but a small number of those who attended the camp at the time. ~600 have been rescued from the grounds. But a DW news report said that the camp did not have shelters on the grounds to flee to for safety.
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    "UPDATE: Kerr County officials say as of 9a.m. Sunday morning, 59 have been killed in the Kerr County flooding, among those are 21 children and 38 adults. 11 Camp Mystic campers and 1 counselor are still unaccounted for"

    There should have been sirens.
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    maybe the state will see the utility in emergency sirens. hearing the regular tests will become part of childhoods

    or we can tie the blindfold ourselves and just let extreme weather dickslap us in the night

    i've only taken shelter from storms in the night a few times, but i also lived in plains areas with adequate emergency sirens. a room with a dozen 8 year olds at 1am? my goodness. can hardly imagine how fucked some campers were
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    This area floods so regularly (4 major floods since 2000) it sounds like they need proper flood control infrastructure - dams, flood channels, debris basins, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    This area floods so regularly (4 major floods since 2000) it sounds like they need proper flood control infrastructure - dams, flood channels, debris basins, etc.

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    Yes to all of it. Unfortunately, seems like we are more worried about immigrants and owning the tree hugging libs than actually make Texas safe
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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    This area floods so regularly (4 major floods since 2000) it sounds like they need proper flood control infrastructure - dams, flood channels, debris basins, etc.

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    sir this is a Texas. we'll build another freeway though
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    Death toll up to 69 now. Fucking awful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    "UPDATE: Kerr County officials say as of 9a.m. Sunday morning, 59 have been killed in the Kerr County flooding, among those are 21 children and 38 adults. 11 Camp Mystic campers and 1 counselor are still unaccounted for"

    There should have been sirens.
    Real shame I heard the news and was hoping it was just a bunch of magatards who deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    This area floods so regularly (4 major floods since 2000) it sounds like they need proper flood control infrastructure - dams, flood channels, debris basins, etc.

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    Maybe the states should step up then or something.
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    Maybe new building codes for housing in that area?
    Some type of loud alarm that is triggered when flooring has reached a certain level? Flood rescue quicker response?
    I don't know, but we have to learn from this and adapt or it will happen again. We can't just say "Welp, it was a 100 year flood that happened, nothing ya can do about it "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Maybe new building codes for housing in that area?
    Some type of loud alarm that is triggered when flooring has reached a certain level? Flood rescue quicker response?
    I don't know, but we have to learn from this and adapt or it will happen again. We can't just say "Welp, it was a 100 year flood that happened, nothing ya can do about it "
    Sir, this is a Texas. All that can be afforded is more prayer.
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