So where does SWAT Kats rank?
So where does SWAT Kats rank?
Honestly, growing up as a big Chip n' Dale fan (especially the game, holy fuck), while it does suck that they're giving the franchise this treatment, I can totally get why they're doing it. As much as it'll annoy the old fans, the studio making this movie isn't targeting them at all. The series came out in 1989, guessing the average kid who watched it was what? Around 5 at the time? They'd be 30+ by now with their own kids more then likely. The studios are targeting those new audiences.
I mean, Smurfs got 2 movies. Alvin and the Chipmonks got what? 3 movies? Kids are eating this stuff up, and the parents who were fans of the originals are probably more then happy to take their kids to see all these remakes. So while it does suck, it's pretty obvious this movie is getting made without me or people my age and older in mind (I'm 25 with no kids >_>)
The first Chipmonks movie was ok. I just didn't care for all of the songs that they chose to put into the movie (besides the Christmas song since it is important to the story and is a classic). When they introduced the Chipettes in the second film, Ms Miller was no where to be found. For the third movie, I would've love to have seen a new rendition of the Chipmonks movie where the Chipmonks and Chipettes are tricked into competing in a hot air balloon race around the world to smuggle diamonds hidden in dolls. But they decided to crap out the Chipwrecked movie and casted the actress that played John Ralphios sister on Parks and Rec in such a terrible role.
And really, this is the main problem with these cartoon reboots: they try to make it hip and cool and forget about some of the original elements of the cartoon. C&D's main characters hardly ever interacted with humans as they mainly spoke to other animals and on the rare occasion a child. With this reboot, they will probably do it like the smurfs where they interact with some couple and the couple helps them out to solve whatever mystery which takes away from the fact that these 5 small characters were able to solve a crime on their own.
Also holy crap CGI Zipper is going to look awful...
So wait they're making a movie before they make the Chip 'N Dales MMORPG (now with extreme pvp)?
Part of what you're describing is true—it's a cash-grab, conceptualized by someone with a career in commercials, who is clearly going to jump on the "let's revisit forgotten properties with CGI" train—but it doesn't have to be this way. Why?
There is absolutely nothing preventing Disney from making a movie that appeals to both children and adults, as they have done with plenty of their recent films, such as "Frozen" and "Tangled." Naturally, anyone who appreciates animation will also heap praise on Pixar's movies, but I'm talking about wholly in-house productions, here. Additionally, they've proven that they can do retro while also appealing to the masses (see: "Wreck-It Ralph"), and Disney has specifically talked about how they'd like to reinvigorate the imagination and wit their properties used to be known for (see: "No Service").
When you take those things into consideration, this concept sounds like a tragically huge waste. If they go through with it, I'm sure it will make money. If they don't take the idea of reinvigorating this franchise and sculpt it into something more incredible before production, though, they'll have missed an opportunity they're more than equipped to handle.
You're speaking as if they're not going to make a franchise out of this. If it's successful in theatres then they 100% will.
Let's face it, take away the title "Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers", and just think of a series that has 2 chipmonks solving crimes and being a heroic duo. Who is that going to work for? A bunch of adults who may have seen that in the past? Hell no. They'll make a movie or two, make a bunch of toys, action figures, halloween costumes, clothing with the shows characters on it, maybe a spin-off show/cartoon, etc, etc, etc, all targeted at a new generation of kids who would actually buy into that franchise and have their parents buy them all sorts of things related to it. Not a bunch of adults who might buy a few random items for nostalgia's sake.
And that's my point. Given Disney's success with this stuff (the first Alvin and the Chipmonks made $361 million world wide mind you, FAAAAAAR from a failure, and a 4th movie is being made for 2015), this will most likely be successful to some degree. And then they will reinvigorate this franchise, they will sculpt it into something new. They'll just target the parents and their kids demographic, much like the original series did.
My first reaction regarding my childhood:
But since this is a Disney property, I have hope it won't be completely atrocious ala Alvin and the Chipmonks. Alvin was Fox iirc, and we all know how efficient they are at ruining what should be goldmine IP titles, CGI or not.
Kohan's right that Disney has done well with recent CGI films, even if I might prefer to see regular 2D animation for this. The last Muppets movie wasn't bad and it's the same sub-studio that is producing this.
Well there yea go, lol. I didn't know AntC was done by Fox. Given Disney's track record, I'd honestly be more optimistic then worried.
I don't see how what I said has anything to do with whether they make a franchise out of it or not.
I don't even understand how this is a response to my post at all. This doesn't argue against it in any way.Originally Posted by Vaspinne
You're not mentioning anything that can't be done with a quality production, which Disney is capable of creating. They have the talent and resources, and they are internally going through exactly the sort of creative push that should lead to Rescue Rangers getting better treatment than this.
You're also underestimating the value of retro appeal, which has been hugely profitable during the past decade or so. After all, those parents who fondly remember something are the ones footing the bills for their kids. Likewise, if you think it's just a gaggle of nerds buying a trinket or two, you sorely misunderstand how much money this trend makes. On top of that, you probably didn't know that Rescue Rangers was in syndication for ten years, and that it's been revisited in other forms since then, including comics and games. Considering, no, it's not going to be completely out of nowhere to today's kids, or even today's teenagers—not to mention adults—to remember this franchise.
I really don't understand what your point is, unless it is to insist that something created by one of the world's best studios cannot and should not be a quality production—as if "quality" means "unmarketable product." That doesn't make any sense at all.
As far as knowing about all the recent Chip 'n Dale's comics and games and etc, I had no idea. And I'm sure I'm not alone. I knew of the original show and I knew of the NES game. And that was it. Honestly, I don't think that just a "gaggle of nerds" are going to buy into the retro appeal. I just believe that recreating the series targeting a new generation would reach a far broader and far larger audience, which is exactly why Disney would aim towards that then the retro appeal approach. And that's what I was trying to argue. That's what I was trying to argue in my first post in this thread, and that's what I'm still saying now.
Looking back and rereading your first response to me, I'll admit, I read into it wrong. I read it as "doing the film this way will result in failure and a missed chance at recreating a franchise", hence my response. So that was my mistake, because rereading it now I can see that you're not saying that at all.
Should just throw some money at Benedict Cumberbatch and this will be a hit, crime-solving movie.
my feelings about this movie
This was one of those shows I didn't particularly like as a kid. Talespin had a habit of boring me, too.
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Sums this up properly.
They 100% need to include Gadget and Monterey Jack when they make this. Most of the cartoons appeal was Monty flipping the fuck out whenever he smelled cheese.
It didn't have words so it can't really compete with TMNT, Duck Tales and Rescue Rangers but the X-Men intro was badass. That pseudo-guitar riff is probably the most memorable cartoon music for me.
Live action for Rescue Rangers is hugely disappointing, watching people act retarded to make it work sounds painful. Disney does good things, this is true but damn, I'm ye of little faith on this one.