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  1. #281
    Ridill
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    3 silver pieces + 3 hq hippo skins don't inspire confidence

    I've yet to see anything that justifies the 18 hour explorations.

  2. #282
    Bagel
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    My wife got a white raven armor fragment today, to add to her collection of crafting benches and moogle weapons.

    Mine brought me a fish.

  3. #283
    Death by snoo snoo
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    So I have three retainers, what are the best jobs to set them up as? I currently have them as MIN, BTN, and PGL. But I just did my first set of ventures so I could change those without regret right now.

  4. #284
    Hyperion Cross
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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    3 silver pieces + 3 hq hippo skins don't inspire confidence

    I've yet to see anything that justifies the 18 hour explorations.
    Do they not give the most EXP? Or is several gathering/mining ones more EXP over time (assuming you can baby sit your retainers).
    I've been purely doing them because I go to bed at midnight and don't get back until 7pm the next day due to work, and then spam quick ventures as it's addictive.

  5. #285
    Old Merits
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    Thats pretty much the main reason to use the 18hr ones. sleep for 8hrs, work for 8hrs, get back and its ready.

  6. #286

    Giving them regular hourly ventures of the highest level is more exp/hour than the exploration ones, as said the exploration ventures are pretty much what you set them on before you log out for the day for a nice lump sum of exp when you get back and some money (they always bring back allagan currency afaik).

  7. #287
    Black Mage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epedemic_Optikz View Post
    mining:
    41-45: raw turquoise, electrum sand, electrum ore, raw amber, raw rubellite, marble (57896 exp)
    46-50: basilisk egg, cobalt ore, adamantoise shell, ogre horn, grade 3 carbonized matter (70533 exp)

    highland exploration:
    lvl45: 209333 exp
    lvl50 xi: 280 gathering req (255455 exp)
    lvl50 xii: 323 gathering req (255455 exp)
    lvl50 xiii: 383(holy fuck) gathering req (255455 exp)


    disciple of war:
    31-35: formic acid, raptor shank, hippogryph sinew, boar hide, peiste skin, fleece
    36-40: spoken blood, karakul skin, grenade ash, raptor sinew, ochu vine
    41-45: pudding flesh, basilisk egg, buffalo sirloin, apkallu egg, apkallu down
    46-50: ahriman wing, eft tail, raptor skin, ogre horn, snurble tufts

    highland exploration:
    lvl50 xi: average ilvl50
    lvl50 xii: average ilvl60
    lvl50 xiii: average ilvl70 (obtained 3 allagan silver pieces + 3 hq hippogryph skin when i did it yesterday)
    Wow, can you even get 383 gathering currently?
    edit- nvm you can for botany & miner, but fishing? wonder if its same cap, dont think you can reach that with fishing (no off hand)

  8. #288
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amiricle View Post
    Wow, can you even get 383 gathering currently?
    edit- nvm you can for botany & miner, but fishing? wonder if its same cap, dont think you can reach that with fishing (no off hand)
    fishing is 308

    the discrepancy between the battle class ilv requirement of 70 and the gathering class gathering requirement is kinda stupid. ilv 70 is easy to do. you cant get any of the gathering stuff w/o serious overmelding and getting them the the new tools

  9. #289
    A. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterBob View Post
    The demand for those useless crafting stations is virtually zero. If you spend thirty seconds thinking about it, you'll understand why.
    My retainer brought me an armorcraft one and I managed to sell it for 388k before tax with 2 others up for sale without a crafter name attached. Not defending its usefulness, but at least there's some people willing to shell out for it. Definitely the best item I've gotten so far.

    Other than that got a petrified log (500 myth item), a blue fox hide for good money items. Also got an allagan platinum piece which was interesting.

  10. #290
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    So, anyone have a botanist retainer? Any drop lists for those?

  11. #291
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    So, anyone have a botanist retainer? Any drop lists for those?
    Are you talking about the Botany Ventures? The tiers are the same as normal gathering.

  12. #292
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    Just the drops, exp it should be the same, but drops might be different.

  13. #293
    Sea Torques
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    Still confused...can ya clarify?

    Quick exploration is random for everyone as far as I'm gathering. I've seen i55 gear (co-incidentally BTN gear), housing items, DL gear, etc.

    Field exploration brings back Allagan coins and random junk.

    Botany just reflects the normal gathering table give or take a few items I think.

  14. #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    Botany just reflects the normal gathering table give or take a few items I think.
    This is what I want to know. Give or take a few items, what differences are there.

  15. #295
    They call me Lord Null for a reason.
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    Riviera House Permit (Composite).

    Now wtf do I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    This is what I want to know. Give or take a few items, what differences are there.
    This is everything I have so far, I'm only level 33 though
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  17. #297
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    Thanks! Updated OP

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  19. #299
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    Kind of disappointing you can't send the retainer after Grade 3 soil or anything that's 1 or 2 star. I don't see how this would be unbalanced considering the high as hell gathering requirement for the high tier exploration things.

  20. #300
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    edit: Or not, images not showing.