.DAT Mining: 7/7/2014 Update - Findings and Discussion

[Ophannus]

Tested at least one new food, fried popoto gives VIT+2 HP+30 and Defense+40. Nothing special unless it has some hidden benefit like enmity or pdt or something. Didn't give anything to my pet either.

[Toth]

Looks like GEO spells in general can come from the Ops, got a "Stonera II" spell from Plucking Wings (which btw took about 1 minute to solo on THF/DNC, didn't even need to cure myself).

Also, 1 High-Purity Bayld.

How does that even make sense lore-wise ><

[FaeQueenCory]

How does that even make sense lore-wise ><

It's a special event....
Those don't follow lore...
How do these moogles have a supply of papers and stones/cards/coins/etc from an entirely different universe?
There is no answer. Because it's just an event that isn't based on lore.

Next you'll be asking why various things spawn around the beginning cities every New Years... It's an event.

[Anissa]

Thrashing Assault seems to be Fusion / Impaction

cdc > ta > fusion
savage blade > ta > light
circle blade > ta > impaction
burning blade > ta > fusion

Too bad. I was hoping it would make light or dark with CDC.

[Fwahm]

Is saboteur gimped on NM's or just estoq hands? Ffxiwiki just said the estoq hands bonus was halved and nothing on bgwiki.

Saboteur is x2.0 potency, x2.2 with Esto. +2 hands on normal mobs. On NMs, it's x1.5 potency, x1.6 on Esto. +2 hands.

[Trumpy]

You mean how does it make sense in the past has items from adoulin, when there are maws for geos and runs to go thru and bring them there? Its the same arguement about how new job relics showed up in dynamis at a later point.

[Damane]

Shadow Lord V2 on Normal is about what you'd expect. All of his TP moves seem to be AoE and take shadows - Umbra Smash(?) was a very potent Curse, at least 50% HP down. Just like the mission fight, phase 1 jumps between magic immunity and physical immunity, Formless works fine on both immunities. Seemed fairly evasive even on Normal. He is not immune to Stun. Didn't see any ADL TP moves, and it did not split when we did it.

Phase 2 he just stands in one place and spams Implosion (High AoE, ignores shadows) so just gather everyone up around him, spam curagas and rush it.

Got the Great Axe with Add: Death as a drop, haven't had a chance to test it yet.

just did normal followed by tough

normal was like you said

tough isnt a pushover, however on phase 1 melees need to be a bit cautious with DT gear, or apply scherzo. phase 2 is a curaga spam fest, mages with decent idle sets should have no problem surviving. Distract from /rdm landed fairly well on him. PLD not really needed for both (we went with pld since we didnt know what to expect)

setup: PLD MNK MNK GEO BRD WHM. Replace PLD with another melee.

got Fast cast body on normal

and occult acumen legs on tough

occult acumen legs are 3% MP cost transfered into TP. WHM/SCH (no occult trait) got 45 TP/1000TP back from holy II (150 MP)

[Karbuncle]

Think ya'll reading way too much into his statement about lore.

[NynJa]

How does that even make sense lore-wise ><

Lore applies to storylines, not loot.

[Phraust]

whats the duration?

Since it wasn't answered that I could see:

Erratic Flutter has a duration of 5 minutes.

[Lyramion]

Got meteor from Fiat Lux also

[Ophannus]

Unsupringly, but still cool, haste II's potency is greater than many slow 2 effects so it wont be overwritten by those effects.

[Khajit]

It's a special event....
Those don't follow lore...
How do these moogles have a supply of papers and stones/cards/coins/etc from an entirely different universe?
There is no answer. Because it's just an event that isn't based on lore.

Next you'll be asking why various things spawn around the beginning cities every New Years... It's an event.

1) They're moogles
2) Parallel dimension so them existing in vanadiel is entirely possible. Abyssea drops could have even originally belonged to moogles
3) All events are handled by moogles. Have you not been paying attention for the last 12 years?

[Prothescar]

Unsupringly, but still cool, haste II's potency is greater than many slow 2 effects so it wont be overwritten by those effects.

have yet to see this. things like slowga and enervating grasp still overwrite. seaspray still overwrites too

[dasva]

Yeah overwritten never was about potency anyways... is that just speculation or have you seen it. And if you have seen it is it something that could overwrite haste I?

[Prothescar]

honestly it just looks to me like anything that could overwrite haste can overwrite haste II. bothersome but expected

[Damane]

honestly it just looks to me like anything that could overwrite haste can overwrite haste II. bothersome but expected

on the other hand the new RDM debuffs seem to stick fairly decent, ecxept for the magic evasion down that was resited balls down on shadow lord on tough. but that might be because he has insane darkness resistance or so.

[Classikmage]

Anyone have any guesses as to what the Latent Effect on Shetal Stone might be? I looked the word "Shetal" up all over wikipedia and google translate and found nothing.

[solkanar]

Just did Splitting Heirs, event drops were O.Bronze, Indi-Fade, Hahava's Mail, and a heavy metal plate.

[Tachi]

Shadow Lord
New TP moves :
Damning Edict (enhanced version of Dark Nova): AoE dark based + Curse (-50% HP) + physical immunity for 1 min.
Swath of Silence : Cone physical AoE + Silence
Casts : Fire V, Firaja and Flare II

Second form :
Bowels of Agony (enhanced version of Umbra Smash) : high physical AoE damage.

Setup : PLD, MNK/NIN, MNK/NIN, BRD, WHM, SMN. It wasn't particularly difficult on VD.
Giga Slash is his most powerful TP move but it's blinkable.
Implosion is 30' and terrain/height difference doesn't seem to help in avoiding that.
Bowels of Agony is potentially dangerous for mages but the range is incredibly small (around 6' or 8'), it's possible to hit everyone with Curaga without being in range.

Title : Brillance Manifest
Drops : Onimusha-No-Kote, Lightreaver

Mithra trackers :
Setup : PLD, NIN, NIN, WHM, BRD, SMN.
The fight was chaotic on VD, almost timed out. I can't really explain how their hate works but it's clearly not just "everyone on the same target during Skillchains".
Z's Wyvern Healing Breath III only on itself, X's Rabbit casts Blindga, Bindga and Breakga.

Title : Sin Purger
Drops : Shetal Stone (Z and X), Baghere Salade (Z), Durgai Leggings (Y), Nilgal Pole (Y). Each Mithra has her own treasure pool.