10/7/2014 Update! Findings/Discussion

[Sechs]

Also I assume no new Blood Pacts, correct? Guess we'll have to wait november for that...
2.4 for FFXIV and WoD for WoW coming out around the beginning of november. They better pack a lot of stuff into the nov patch for FFXI!

[Tarage]

And I guess it still doesn't apply to the Avatar itself...
What about the increased perpetuation? Fixed? %? How much?

Like I said above, it's 3. I don't know if it scales with levels, but when I took off my gear to measure it it was just a flat 3.

Also I assume no new Blood Pacts, correct? Guess we'll have to wait november for that...
2.4 for FFXIV and WoD for WoW coming out around the beginning of november. They better pack a lot of stuff into the nov patch for FFXI!

Unless they snuck it in, no. I saw no new BPs, not even on Caitsith. Why they showed her in the preview picture I have no idea.

[Byrthnoth]

Climactic Flourish testing with 119 Terpsichore mainhand (197 DEX, 216 CHR, 11% Critical Attack Bonus):
Viper Bite: 1419, 1420, 1437, 1454, (Grand Pas w/ 10/10 JPs: 1511)

Melee hits: 753, 763, 764, 765, 767, 768, 778, 779, 781, 782, 784, 785, 785, 790, 791, 793, 793, 796 (Grand Pas: 802)
Melee 763/796 without crit attack bonus: -- 688, 718
102 + 19 fSTR = 121, observed damage is ~229, so ~108 base damage from CHR (216). That makes it a 50% CHR boost to base damage.

1.11*3*(102+19+197+108) = 1418 (predicted 3.0 point for Viper Bite)
All wasp sting numbers are within the bounds despite having dramatically different base damage, so this is likely how it works.

Striking:
Viper Bite: 1326
First swing: 675, 707, 728 (non-crits), 1131, 1172 (crits)
Second swing: 409 (Crit)

Striking appears to be +100% CHR, but only to the first swing (not the DA).


Ternary:
Viper Bite: 1008 (73 TP return, only wearing one weapon)
First swing: 661, 661, 679, 756, 798, 822, 842, 855, 892, 914 (non-crits), 1139, 1171 (crit)
Second swing: 285, 317

Ternary also appears to be +100% CHR, only the first swing.

[Sechs]

And is the CHR bonus applied the moment of the hit as expected (like SA/TA) or the moment you load up the buff?

[Kincard]

Some random stuff I found digging around JP sites, not sure if repost

Mantle Rare,Ex,DEF13 STR+5 DA+4%/Fire Weather:ATK+20 WAR MNK RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC RUN
Gloves Rare,Ex,DEF89 HP+45 MP+20 STR+11 DEX+35/VIT+32 AGI+5 INT+12 MND+30 CHR+17/ATK+15 MATK+15 EVA+24 MEVA+37 MDEF+2/Haste+5% Enmity+5 DA+2% MNK THF BST RNG NIN BLU COR PUP DNC RUN
Cuisses Rare,Ex,DEF125 HP+112 STR+35 VIT+21 AGI+16/INT+25 MND+12 CHR+10 ACC+17 EVA+22/MEVA+64 MDEF+3 Haste+5% Enmity+7/Counter+3 WAR PLD DRK
Sabots Rare,Ex,DEF64 HP+13 MP+14 STR+10 DEX+11/VIT+10 AGI+33 INT+17 MND+19 CHR+38/EVA+55 MEVA+107 MDEF+5 Haste+3%/Song Casttime-8% Song Recast-5 Regen+1 WHM BLM RDM BRD SMN BLU SCH GEO
Greaves Rare,Ex,DEF83 HP+15 STR+14 DEX+16 VIT+15/AGI+38 MND+11 CHR+28 ACC+20 EVA+52/MEVA+80 MDEF+3 Haste+4% DA+2%/Jump TP Bonus+40 WAR PLD DRK BST DRG
Torque Rare,Ex,MP+20 ACC+5 MACC+7 Fast Cast+4% ALLJOBS
Sash Rare,Ex,Automaton:ACC+15 RACC+15 MACC+15/Haste+5% Fast Cast+5% PUP
Sash Rare,Ex,STR+4 AGI+9 RATK+15 Rapid Shot+3 RNG COR
Earring Rare,Ex,AGI+2 RATK+4 STP+4 ALLJOBS
Earring Rare,Ex,CHR+4/Pet:Haste+3% Enmity+5 Damage Taken-1% ALLJOBS
Ring Rare,Ex,HP+30 MP+30 VIT+5 ACC+7 Enmity+5 ALLJOBS
Ring Rare,Ex,MP+40 Enmity-5 Cure Potency+3%/Quick Magic+2% ALLJOBS

Claws 99 119 Rare Ex D+100 De+60 DEX+12 INT+12 R.Ice+25 Acc+20 H2HSkill+242 GuardSkill+242 MaccSkill+188 SC Bonus+5 Addaralyze WAR MNK RDM THF DRK BST NIN PUP DNC
Dagger 99 119 Rare Ex D95 De183 AGI+15 ACC+27 ATK+15 EVA+27 DagSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 MaccSkill+188 WindAtk+15 SubtleBlow+8 Add:Silence WAR BLM RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG SMN SCH GEO
Sword 99 119 Rare Ex D110 De236 STR+15 R.Fire+25 Acc+20 SwordSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 FireAtk+15 Add:FireDam WAR THF DRK BST RNG SAM BLU
Flueret 99 119 Rare Ex D119 De224 ACC+27 MACC+15 MDAM+90 EVA+13 SwordSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 EnhMagSkill+10 EnfMagSkill+10 MaccSkill+188 OccultAcumen+30 WAR RDM PLD BRD DRG COR DNC
Sword 99 119 Rare Ex D273 De504 VIT+8 INT+13 ACC+15 ATK+26 GSwordSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 MaccSkill+188 Spinning Slash:Damage+35% PLD DRK RUN
Axe 99 119 Rare Ex D156 De288 AGI+15 ACC+15 AxeSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 DA+2% Crit+1% WAR DRK BST RUN
Amood 99 119 Rare Ex D274 De504 STR+10 MND+15 ATK+15 GAXSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 Zanshin+5 WAR
Fork 99 119 Rare Ex D275 De507 Acc+15 PolearmSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 SpiritLink+30 Wyvern:Regen+2 PDT-3% DRG
GKT 99 119 Rare Ex D258 De480 STR+15 ATK+25 GKTSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 Firesday:DA+5% SAM
Cudgel 99 119 Rare Ex D142 De278 VIT+15 INT+6 MND+6 ACC+27 ClubSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 MaccSkill+188 Enmity+6 PDT-10% Add:EarthDam ALLJOBS
Rod 99 119 Rare Ex D156 De288 INT+6 MND+21 MATK+16 MDam+124 ClubSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+215 CurePot+16% Aquaveil+1 CureCastTime-5% WHM BLM SMN SCH GEO

Staff 99 119 Rare Ex D198 De366 DEX+20 INT+22 MND+12 MATK+28 MDam+200 StaffSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+228 ConserveMP+3 Add:LightningDam WAR MNK WHM BLM RDM BST BRD SMN SCH GEO
Staff 99 119 Rare Ex D190 De366 MP+100 StaffSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 Avatar:Macc+20 Matk+120 Enmity+10 SMN
Gun 99 119 Rare Ex D103 De548 DEX+5 AGI+5 RACC+27 MarksSkill+228 Enmity-3 Recycle+10% LightningDam+15 THF RNG NIN COR
Bolt 99 115 D100 De192 RACC+10 Add:DEFDown WAR THF DRK RNG
Bullet 99 115 D220 De240 RACC+10 RATK+5 THF RNG NIN COR
Fuma Shuriken 60 0 D72 De192
Iga Shurken 80 0 D80 De192 RACC+10
Roppo Shuriken 99 107 D71 De192 ATK+12 RACC+3 ThrowSkill+81
Roppo Shuriken+1 99 108 D72 De188 ATK+13 RACC+4 ThrowSkill+94
Happo Shuriken 99 117 D98 De192 ACC+5 ATK+5 RACC+10 ThrowSkill+215 Crit+1%
Happo Shuriken+1 99 118 D99 De188 ACC+6 ATK+6 RACC+11 ThrowSkill+228 Crit+2%
Hachiya Shuriken 99 117 Ex D90 De192 RACC+5 ThrowSkill+215
Suppa Shuriken 99 117 Ex D92 De192 HP+30 ThrowSkill+215
Togakushi Shuriken 99 119 Ex D104 De192 VIT+3 AGI+3 ACC+5 ATK+5 RACC+10 ThrowSkill+242
Sachet 99 0 Rare Ex HP+15 MACC+5 Enmity-2 ALLJOBS
Stone 99 0 Rare Ex STR+3 INT+5 ATK+10 ALLJOBS
Grip 99 0 Rare Ex MP+10 INT+3 MND+3 CHR+3 MACC+5 ALLJOBS
Grip 99 0 Rare Ex STR+6 VIT+3 STP+3 ALLJOBS

[Sechs]

Those BRD boots are semiuseless. Could've been nice if they had some macc or sing+, but that way they're kinda just a precast alternative to Bihu Slippers +1, and given how you want bihu anyway for the augment, they sound useless to me.
Bihu + Kandza are better imho.

Gloves could be really nice for RUN, supposing RUN can equip them.

[Byrthnoth]

The Climactic/Striking/Ternary buff is when you land the hit, not when you activate the JA. Given that it doesn't apply to offhand swings, it seems very unlikely that it would apply to other hits of a WS. Only one more test to do!

186 DEX, 215 CHR (moogle pie wore off)
3365 (1014), 3368, (1004), 3401 (1000) Rudra's Storm

1.11*3*((121+148)*3.25+107) = 3266 3.0 fTP point
vs.
1.11*3*((121+148+107)*3.25) = 4069 3.0 fTP point

So yeah, the CHR damage boost is applied like THF's SA+TA.

[Ophannus]

Great, another pair of feet that add jump tp bonus, likely only to Jump and High Jump. Useless.

That fork had like 20-25 more base damage than Ryu/Gungnir though. Stp+4 earring might be good to pair with trupido(at a loss of brutal) and that ammo with str+3 attack+10 is like a thew bomblet+1. The grip with str+6 vit+3 stp+3 seems like a worse bloodrain strap.

[Tachi]

Like I said above, it's 3. I don't know if it scales with levels, but when I took off my gear to measure it it was just a flat 3.

Perp cost can either 0, +1, or +3 depending on your gear or other bizarre factors.

Atomos :
Deconstrution cannot be resisted it seems. Lvl 75 Atomos managed to steal Defense Boost (Harden Shell) from Kurma everytime. It also bypass Magic Shield.
Cronoshift is 14' centered on Atomos.
Obvious confirmations : can't steal Hydra's Shields, SP Abilities etc.

[Sechs]

Perp cost can either 0, +1, or +3 depending on your gear or other bizarre factors.

What is this supposed to mean? D:

[Suteru]

ZNM now has RoE, as well as Proto-Ultima and Proto-Omega (might have had these before). Salvage chariots, too.

[Tile]

epilogue to the quest A Thirst for Eternity.

Roskin sends you to the library for a book check History to start CS, you start a quiz, each question has 3 choices, each question is timed, you are asked 12 questions and need to get all 12 right, each time you fail you must zone to try again, and you get asked one more question 13, 14, 15 etc (I got my 12 with 15 asked) at the end they will say how many you got right, but not which question you got wrong. Questions are about the almost anything SoA. when you finally get your 12 they will also give you the average time it took you to answer (speedy score:3.28 seconds)

Spoiler: show

Where is order Janniston located: ?
What is the name of the bridge connecting Eastern and western adoulin: big bridge
which naakual has dominion over beasts: Kumhau
which of the twelve orders original boasted the king's lineage: Adoulin
The celennia memorial libary was named after an Envoy name Celennia Wexworth, from which land did Celennia hail: ?
What is the name of the fountain in western Adoulin: Fontis Xanira
Who is the current head of the order of adoulin: Ygnas
what is the name of the cafe located in goddess promenade in easten adoulin: Des Larmes
which body of water extends to the east of adoulin isles: Senroh Sea
what is the name of the edifice where the exorcists practice their craft
what is the name of the riptide naakual:Tchakka
what is the collective name of the small outlying islands rented out to the pioneers: Mog Garden
which personage is known as the archexorcist
which creatures can be found in leafallia: Leafkin
what is the marquee group of the order of haverton: Runefencers?
what is the symbol of the order of wolttaris
what spectacle occurs at the watergarden coliseum: raptor fights
which aspect of Adoulin's government does order of Gorney Control
when were the Rala waterways constructed: 200 years ago?
what is the symbol of the order of karieyh
what is the roll of the pioneers' coalition: register and manage pioneers
which species of creature can be found in abundance in kamihr drifts: Beasts
where is order of vocane loacted
which species of creature can be found in abundance in morimar basalt fields: Lizards
which coalition controls the celennia memorial library
in which locale can one find pungent fungi: Cirdas Cavern
what is the name of the matriarch naakual: Colkhab
what is the name of the river running through Foret de Hennetiel: Zoldeff River
which order does reginald head

bring back book and wait till 1 game day, got 1 copy of Yomi diagram (i was on nin) and 2 bayld. says to visit again, guessing its once per jp midnight

[Priran]

doesn't 2 bayld for those quests imply you did something wrong

[Byrthnoth]

Quick magic ring and aquaveil rod are the two interesting pieces of gear for me. Maybe a sword and h2h for alternative damage types on DNC, but hardly a priority.

[Ambir]

Exp / JP gone from WoE or bug?

[Magnus7775]

Exp / JP gone from WoE or bug?

same thing happening to me, but it's not in the update notes. My guess is it's a mistake

[Tile]

doesn't 2 bayld for those quests imply you did something wrong

like I said took me 4 tries to get it right, and he says to come back often, so sounds like its free bayld and skill book everyday. updated post with list of the questions I was asked, seems like a a large pool and they get picked at random.

[Sechs]

Not sure if quest reward not related to the job you're as.
Started, Performed and Completed quest as DNC and got 3x Throwing skillup books.
My skill was already capped at 378

[dasva]

Wow those shuriken are much crappier than I expected

[The Assman]

In the Atomos quest, if Lilisette's HP drops below 20% or something she turns into Lilith Ascendant and fully heals. If her Ascendant form drops to around 25% she turns back into Lilisette and seems to reset enmity for herself.