Tales of Berseria (PS3, PS4)

[Obsidian]

Honestly I didn't find the Weakness thing too bad and I played on Unknown, but I had the attributes for all the moves pretty much memorized and all the Armatizations have moves that are pretty abusable.

I'm buying it day 1 because (obviously) I'm interested in the game and I know Namco looks at their initial sales numbers pretty hard when decided whether to keep localising or not.

[Krandor]

I'm sure the PC version will have kind of ridiculous graphical/frame rate errors so I'm gonna delay my purchase until it's on sale at some other point and been patched up by the guy who did the fixes for ToZ and FF X/X-2 Remaster

[Elcura]

Honestly I didn't find the Weakness thing too bad and I played on Unknown, but I had the attributes for all the moves pretty much memorized and all the Armatizations have moves that are pretty abusable.

I'm buying it day 1 because (obviously) I'm interested in the game and I know Namco looks at their initial sales numbers pretty hard when decided whether to keep localising or not.

On lower difficulties the system is OK (still annoying) but on higher ones it's fucking awful. Unless you're a Rose pro and have all attacks/attributes memorized or you abuse Arma then you're going to have a bad time. And only one of those things is actually fun.

Combine that with the awful item/equipment/stat system and the game was pretty dead.

Graces had something similar, if Berseria just gets rid of all that bullshit and makes the combat accessible without awful grinding/rng to make it fun it could be great.

[Krandor]

The equipment system was by far the worst thing about Zestiria to me. Shit was so unnecessary convoluted.

[Tyrath]

Yeah I fucking hate the equipment shit.

[Obsidian]

The equipment board thing was brutal, I agree. But I actually think Graces' accessory synthesis bullshit was even worse. It was basically rocket science trying to figure out what would make which skills.

[Obsidian]

PC version will have 60 FPS, 30 FPS options by default.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/4296...73973593834276

[TheDirtyHobo]

And also Denuvo.

[Gokulo]

Demo is out, but if it doesn't give any bonus I think I won't play it haha. Will just make it harder to wait for the full game.

[Ratatapa]

Demo seems to use equipement levels like Zestiria

[Daydreamer]

Demo seems to use equipement levels like Zestiria

If that's true I just lost all interest in this game.

I wanted to like Zesteria but the growth system was infuriating and I stopped playing after like the second town because of it.

[Kirin]

Demo seems to use equipement levels like Zestiria

True, but in reading a bit on gamefaqs the gear limit is +10. I think Zestiria was +100.

[Elcura]

The concept was the problem, not the depth of the concept. I'm pretty sure I'm out too, why do they always ruin good games with shitty systems.

[Kaslo]

So were skits as animated in Zesteria as they are in the Berseria demo? I love this change. Also, as with any Tales game, I have no idea what I'm doing in combat.

[Krandor]

From looking at the demo the entire gear system is way the fuck toned down. I still think it's a dumb system, but at least they seem to have calmed it down quite a bit.

[Gokulo]

So were skits as animated in Zesteria as they are in the Berseria demo? I love this change. Also, as with any Tales game, I have no idea what I'm doing in combat.

Didn't play yet but I remember reading Berseria has a new skit system

[Karbuncle]

Eh I enjoyed Zesteria. Since Symphonia I've enjoyed Zesteria and Graces. I don't get to play very many though. One I recall being a little bored in (though not because of story, just a jarring shift in combat from Zesteria) was the one with the Goddess lady, Maxwell? She got her powers drained by a big cannon or something in the beginning. Can't remember the name for the life of me.

Either way. Long story short, of the combat is more like Zesteria im okay with it. I like the more free roaming nature, really never enjoyed the only back/forth crap with left/right done by awkwardly strafeing or something.

As for items, I never minded the Zesteria system. It was fun for me and my brother trying to unlock new bonuses on that grid. I always liked how enemies could drop weapons, and chaining enemies raised their level... so on some early dungeons if you chained like 7-8 mobs you could if you're lucky get a weapon or armor that's like 40 levels above you and be a little OP for a bit. ( this probably exists in other games but I don't play them very often... nor recently lol)

ANYWAY.

Figure I'll download the demo and see if this will be a game my brother and I play through.

[Kaslo]

One I recall being a little bored in (though not because of story, just a jarring shift in combat from Zesteria) was the one with the Goddess lady, Maxwell? She got her powers drained by a big cannon or something in the beginning. Can't remember the name for the life of me.

You are thinking of Xillia

[Gokulo]

Eh I enjoyed Zesteria.

I'd ignore it normally, but you repeated it so many times in the post I just couldn't :D It's Zestiria

[Ayn]

I like it, but am I the only one that feels like combat's slower this time?